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| Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873 | Ron Paul interviewed on freeminds tv: Free Keene » Ron Paul Interview on Free Minds TV Check out Rons interview by free-minds tv, in Keene New Hampshire. Ron addresses many issues in this video that are on individuals minds. RON PAUL '08---HELP SAVE THE WORLD! Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready |
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![]() Hot Lava Posts: 1,663 | Paul claims the Federal Reserve Bank, or any central bank, is unconstitutional. But the US Constitution's Article I, Section 8, clearly gives the US Congress the monetary authority "to coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures." Where does it say the US Congress can't establish a central bank to regulate monetary policy? LII: Constitution |
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| Sedimentary Rock Location: California Posts: 4 | I'm so tired of hearing about Ron Paul. By his own admission this person is a Libertarian running as a Republican. He says he is running as a Republican because it's too expensive to run as a third party. He also said he ran for Congress as a Republican because he couldn't be competitive as a Libertarian. Anyone who starts out using the resources of another party to get into the frey does not deserve to be considered as a real candidate. I'll be happy when this election is over just so I won't have to hear about him anymore. |
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,922 | Quote:
In spite of his libertarian perspectives he has authored bills that were important for the objectives of Bush and the Republican objectives. And for Texas oil interests. Therefore he has earned the right be on the Republican ticket... even if he does not agree with how people interpret the Consitution. | |
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,922 | Quote:
Also, the IRS is a private company that seems to have lots of power over citizens. One might question if that is consitutional or not. But I cannot log on to his interview so I am only guessing. | |
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| Libertarian Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 1,609 | Quote:
And, where does the Constitution allow Congress to delegate that authority to a private bank? It doesn't even allow for delegating the authority to the executive branch in the form of a government owned central bank. And, if the Fed answers to anyone in the government, it's most certainly to the executive branch, and not the legislative, other than indirectly. If we were to take the Constitution literally and appropriately, the Treasury Department would be under direct control of Congress, making money backed by something of real value, and the Fed wouldn't exist at all. But, since when has our government even followed the Constitution? Keith The great thread killer. | |
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![]() Hot Lava Posts: 1,663 | Quote:
Whether that paper money MUST at all times have actual metals in stock to back it up is also not clearly prescribed in the US Constitution. It's a good idea, certainly, but a literal reading of the document makes no such rule evident. Quote:
And where does the US Constitution limit the US Congress to practice any form of "delegating" it damn well chooses? Where are those limits, specifically? | ||
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 401 | I don't really care under what ticket he's running...if he makes it through to the primaries (unlikely), I'm voting for him. Why? He's the only one so far who makes the most sense, who tells it like it is, and who seems to do the least amount of politicking. Which is exactly why he won't make it into the primaries. |
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,922 | At least we have a Ron Paul promo added to Volconvo which is good as I was tired of seenig Obama's mug all over the place. At last I got to see the interviews and his speech. Everything he said sounded good, his one man revolution clearly captured the excitement of that crowd. Getting Congress and the Senate to cheer on his revolution after being elected would not be as easy of a task. He claims that he would bring back traditional republican ideas and clearly does not agree with the current republican party trends. He is one of the best speakers in the nomination circut. Not absolutly sure if I agree with his desire to islolate America from the rest of he world but it might give us a chance to recover from some of our woes, if applied as an temporary break. I have even heard some of the same ideas that he holds too being expressed by left wing intellectuals, namely by Jerry Brown of California. So he has cross-over appeal in some issues, He presented a collection of crowd pleasing one liners. Not mush to disagree with due to the lack of actual details. But if America wants a change. He would sure the hell do that, a radical change. Not sure if allowing state governors to be in charge of all laws is such a good idea. For all we know they might have worse ideas and who would get state government "off our backs and out of our pockets"? But at least you could move to the state that agrees with you and still remain patriot. The things I do not like about Ron Paul he did not talk about in the link provided, so I will not get into that in this thread. And guess what, I did not hear any heckles from any little jerks in that mostly young audiance. Hmm, very unrepublican of him not to get booed. |
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 401 | I think--read, I hope--people are more and more getting tired of our bipartisan system. Although the current administration absolutely offends my sensibilities, the newly-won Democratic Senate has done absolutely nothing to impress me, and the more I see of Clinton's and Obama's campaigns, the more I'm convinced they're nothing but flip sides of the same coin. America needs a real change. Especially after the last 8 years. The more off-center Ron Paul goes, the more I support him. |
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| Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873 | Ron Paul, at 12:00 midnight, EST, won the debate with 33% of the votes, roughly the percentage of both the second and third place canidates added together. More people are learning about Paul, and I think many can respect the parity between what he says, and what he does in office. Welcome thrashee, and I couldn't agree more on the point of ending the bi-partisan monopoly on political power. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready |
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 8,922 | Quote:
HIs oil drenched platform stinks of dead sea birds. He cannnot disban Congress so he would just be changing bi-partisan politics with tri-partisan politics. Such added complexity would not magically make things run smoother in Washington DC. Ron Paul fans have been hyped up on a big fantasy, time to come back down to the ground and get in touch with realistic politcs. | |
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![]() BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320 | Quote:
I wouldn't think Democrats would not want to talk track record", but hey, if you think thats the angle that needs to be covered, why not google some of your representatives past voting records, and critique them? Too traumatic? I suspect that would let all the hot air out of that big gas bag. | |
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| Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873 | Techno, keep hanging on your "oil"legislation, the ONLY thing that COULD be called dirt, on Ron Paul. Pauls voting history wipes the floor with ALL other canidates, regardless of party, when viewed in the context of Constitutionality. I would make a list of all the unconstitutional Demodips bills created and sponsored, both passed and unpassed, but I don't think Jason can afford the loss of 75% of his forum space. Techno...... boogidy, boogidy..... :rolleyes: Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready |
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| Igneous Magma Posts: 401 | Quote:
Stating that he is a coward because of one particular issue that you seemingly care about is incredibly myopic, imho. | |
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