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Old Apr 8, 2006, 02:03 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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FBI probes nuclear reactor hole

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4890204.stm

A Florida energy company has called in the FBI and offered a $100,000 reward to try and find out who drilled a hole in one of its nuclear power stations.
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Old Apr 8, 2006, 03:49 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Does this not bother anyone?

Had this not been found in time the US could (ok a probability thing) have had their own Chernobyl?

Why do you think the FBI has been called?

It is likely the hole cannot be shown to have been made by legitamate means, through maintenance, corrosion etc! So that leaves on a malicious act.

Now who would want to cause a severe nuclear "accident" in the US ?
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Old Apr 8, 2006, 04:46 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Now who would want to cause a severe nuclear "accident" in the US ?
Cujo did it!!
No, no, Timothy McV......
No wait, Osama!!!!!
No wait, Iranians!!! Yeah, thats it. Thats the ticket.
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Old Apr 8, 2006, 05:58 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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The Florida event could be some kind of distraction from the intentional action coming up in July
Anyone worried about the American bombing in Nevada in broad daylight?
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Chicago Tribune

Non-atomic bomb test to pack a big bang

By Eric Rosenberg
Hearst Newspapers
Published March 31, 2006


WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon plans to explode a 700-ton conventional bomb on June 2 at the Nevada atomic test site as part of a military program to develop weapons for destroying underground enemy bunkers.
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Scientists Say Planned Blast a Part of Nuclear Testing

Published on Thursday, April 6, 2006 by the Las Vegas Sun

Scientists Say Planned Blast a Part of Nuclear Testing by Launce Rake The Defense Department’s plan to detonate 700 tons of explosives at the Nevada Test Site is intended to simulate a nuclear blast as part of Pentagon research into development of low-yield nuclear weapons, a science advisory group charged Tuesday.
The Pentagon refused to confirm or deny the claim, made by the Federation of American Scientists, a Washington, D.C.-based liberal policy group opposed to development of nuclear weapons.

But if the charge is verified, debate over the blast seems certain to shift beyond environmental effects on Nevada to international concerns over nuclear weapons proliferation.

The federation said it based its statement on a review of Pentagon budget requests since 2002 showing that the blast, scheduled for June 2, would serve as a "low-yield nuclear weapon simulation." Hans Kristensen, an analyst for the federation, said the Pentagon’s Defense Threat Reduction Agency has carefully ducked the issue of whether the test was nuclear-related.

The test sight is near Yucca Mountain, where nuclear waste from the whole USA is being stored.
This next test looks like a fast way to dig a hole for dumping even more nuke waste

LARGE MAP of Nevada test site and yucca mountain.

Heres the result of past testing:
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Old Apr 8, 2006, 06:09 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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If our nuclear power industry ran their own security as effectively as they keep telling us they do, they wouldn't NEED to call the FBI because they themselves would have stopped any such attempt to sabotage a reactor.
Crying to the FBI is ADMITTING their security is as bad as that in our ports. It is also just another failure of the Bush administration and their fraudulent DHS.

The irony is that the Department of Homeland Security was CREATED because the CIA and FBI were not doing their jobs, and now the same FBI is being called on to protect a nuclear facility.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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Old Apr 9, 2006, 10:04 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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If our nuclear power industry ran their own security as effectively as they keep telling us they do, they wouldn't NEED to call the FBI because they themselves would have stopped any such attempt to sabotage a reactor.
Crying to the FBI is ADMITTING their security is as bad as that in our ports. It is also just another failure of the Bush administration and their fraudulent DHS.

The irony is that the Department of Homeland Security was CREATED because the CIA and FBI were not doing their jobs, and now the same FBI is being called on to protect a nuclear facility.

A wonderful observation there Scribbler.


This is potentially some scary stuff. Living about fifteen miles away from one of these power stations that just had a similar incendent, it surely does make one wonder about the security of these installations.


(Thanks for the links Dan, nice post.)
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Old Apr 9, 2006, 02:02 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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(Thanks for the links Dan, nice post.)
Thanx. I am worried that my meaning may have been lost. That it appears to be off-topic, because in the down time waiting for the large map to load (dial-up), I should have been making my case.

Meanwhile back to Florida, it could have been a construction mistake, as mentioned in the article. In my trade as a plumber, I could see where a hole could have been drilled in the right or wrong spot (for example) but didnt scrap the whole pipe, just laid it aside to use somewhere else. The drilled hole could have been facing away from the mechanic during construction but would show up when pressure tested. When doing a big job, I always pressurize pipes with air to test for leaks. It could be criminal mischeif, sabotage; or it could be a construction error. Maybe the foreman told a worker to drill and tap and install a pressure gauge at that point. But then the worker got re-assigned, halfway through. It could be purely innocent (but sloppy), in other words.

Everybody is supposed to cry in unison for protection from the boogey-man lurking in the shadows.
But I have caught a glimpse past intruders.

Beware inside job, they are brazen in their bloody mischief........
What better time to actually set off a nuke, than while testing a 700 ton bomb that we dont even have a delivery system for?
The same globalist who designed the war games of 911, brought us:
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The transcript is as follows.

POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.
So if some idiot wanted to start a nuke-yoo-lar war, why not bomb a nuke storage facility, DURING A STAND DOWN, thanx to military drills.
They have priors.
Modus Operandi.

Nevada Test Site ARL/SORD Stations

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So watch for 2 mushrooms on 06-02-2006. (The Illuminati does love their numerology)
The nasty one would be above Yucca Mountain, which BTW, is the home of Bush Admins primary campaign lie.
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Bush backs Nevada site for nuclear waste

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush Friday endorsed the Energy Department's recommendation to store 77,000 metric tons of high-level nuclear waste in an underground facility in Yucca Mountain, Nevada, senior administration officials told CNN.
<snip>
During the presidential campaign, Bush said he would only back Yucca Mountain if storage of nuclear waste there was based on "sound science."
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Opponents of storing nuclear waste at Yucca Mountain contend that recent scientific analysis questions the safety of storing nuclear waste permanently at the site. The Energy Department's inspector general and the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of Congress, have recently issued reports questioning the quality of operations at Yucca Mountain.
"77,000 metric tons". Sounds like a nice round, godly number.

God, I hope I am wrong.

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 02:27 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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gr8fuldaniel Totaly agreed on the possibility of an error in construction or maintenance, and as you say a pressure test would show up the fault, and a fix put into place.
Then an internal enquiry, sack the Contractor who did it wrong and wind it up on line.

But OH NO for some strange reason the FBI is called.

Yep it's them darn terrorists, possibly cuban or Venuzuellan.

Hey ain't Bush's brother looking after Florida, does he have a drill (OH crazy thought if he's anything like Bush he wouldn't no which end to hold), bet he knows a man who knows how to drill a suspicious hole though

Then you do a wonderful job of highlighting the possibilites from the big Yuck in the Yucka. When are your election due? October? I'd rethink the date nearer too the campaign
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Old Apr 9, 2006, 03:10 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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We are broke. We cant afford another Iraq style quagmire.

This gentle soul;



Wants to flatten Iran in a days work.

And just like Afghanistan (pipelines) and Iraq (oil fields) attacked us on 911..........
Will Iran (oil fields) attack us on 6-2-06?

I would say it can be arranged.

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When are your election due? October? I'd rethink the date nearer too the campaign
November 7. But elections can be postponed indefinitely if the party in power is in danger of losing majority in the house and senate through an election. That would be a threat to national security, especially if we are attacked by Iranians.......dont ya know!

We will still be in a state of emergency 5 months after we deploy nuclear weapons. Especially when China and Russia step up to protect their interests in Iran.
It aint gonna be a pinata party.

These fuckers will do ANYTHING to stay in power.

They are willing to sacrifice people for wealth and power.

They are thinking; "Why trust anything so important as maintaining power, to an election"?
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Old Apr 9, 2006, 03:28 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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Do we know when the leak was detected? Was it during the smoke test, or the actual operation?


I could see a construction oversight, or something along those lines, but that only takes us back to Scribblers point about the need to call in the Feds.


I suppose the call to the Feds could just be a the easiest ( cheapest ) way to have the scene investigated.


[sarcasm]That's it, they are saving the in house investigation costs, and just defering to the Federal investigators, because they will have to conduct thier own investigation in spite of any evidence gathered by any other team, might as well just stand aside, and let the official investigation begin.[/sarcasm]
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Old Apr 9, 2006, 05:16 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Do we know when the leak was detected? Was it during the smoke test, or the actual operation?
From the article
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Workers at Florida Power and Light found the small hole when doing pre-start up tests on a reactor at the Turkey Point Unit Three power plant.

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A Florida Power spokeswoman said that the company thought the hole was produced intentionally, but didn't know if it was a case of human error or a deliberate act of sabotage.

The reactor had been shut down for routine maintenance, but many of the contractors hired to work on the plant have since left the site and might not know about the problem.
Not much to go on. They dont even say if the contractors were working on the pipe or not. They are being vague so we will let our imagination run wild. In that case I suspect Jeb. Was he in the area that day?
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Old Apr 9, 2006, 05:57 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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The way I see it, if it wasn't deliberate sabotage it was human error. However, if this error has gone unnoticed from the time it occurred it could just as easily have BEEN sabotage for the simple fact that it WASN'T detected at the time it happened.
OTOH, if it was indeed sabotage it surely would have been on a MUCH larger scale than a little hole. If you're going to sneak in you may as well make it worth the risk.


Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots.
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