Milosevic dies in jail

[shrike]

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/News...-MILOSEVIC.xml AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Former Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic has died, the UN tribunal said on Saturday, just months before his war crimes trial was expected to conclude. "Milosevic was found lifeless on his bed in his cell at the United Nations detention unit," the tribunal said in a statement. "The guard immediately alerted the detention unit officer in command and the medical officer. The latter confirmed that Slobodan Milosevic was dead." The tribunal said the Dutch police and a Dutch coroner were called in and started an inquiry. A full autopsy and toxicological examination have been ordered. Milosevic's family has been informed, it added. The tribunal did not say how Milosevic had died. French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy told Reuters Milosevic had died of natural causes. Milosevic, 64, suffered a heart condition and high blood pressure which had repeatedly interrupted his trial in The Hague on charges of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes during the bloody disintegration of Yugoslavia in the 1990s. Two cardiologists treating Milosevic in The Hague had warned he was at risk of a potentially life threatening condition known as a hypertensive emergency, when surges in blood pressure can damage the heart, kidneys and central nervous system. Last month, the tribunal rejected a request by Milosevic to travel to Russia for specialist medical treatment, noting that his trial -- that has already lasted four years -- was in the final stages and he might not return to complete it. The court said Milosevic's lawyers had not shown that his medical needs could not be met in the Netherlands and said experts from abroad could come to The Hague to treat him. Milosevic, who was overthrown in 2000 and sent to The Hague in June 2001, said last month his health was worsening. Milosevic's brother lives in Russia and prosecutors suspect his wife and son do too. The prosecution had opposed his release despite a promise by Russia to return him, fearing he could say his health stopped him from travelling back to The Hague. The former Serb strongman was defending himself and had refused to cooperate with court-appointed lawyers who are on standby to fill in for him when he is ill. He had used up more than four-fifths of the 150 days allotted for his defence, suggesting the case could be wrapped up in the next few months barring any new delays. Judges would then need several months to deliberate before a verdict. Milosevic is charged with 66 counts of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes in complex indictments covering conflicts in Bosnia, Croatia and Kosovo in the 1990s. He declined to enter a plea. Last week, former rebel Croatian Serb leader Milan Babic committed suicide at the tribunal's detention centre. Babic had testified against Milosevic and was in The Hague to appear in the trial of another top Croatian Serb.

II defiantly don't going to cry about him.Not that albanians much better they did the same atrocities.

[Mr.Vicchio]

This is why the international community can't do anything right. Look how long it took them to try and bring this guy to justice.

Compare that with Saddam... he's ON trail RIGHT now.

[Apeman81]

I pray for his soul and shed not one tear

[Zeebadee]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio This is why the international community can't do anything right. Look how long it took them to try and bring this guy to justice. Compare that with Saddam... he's ON trail RIGHT now.

One can only hope that some day it will be bush and rumsfeld on trial.

[Chris the Chees]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio This is why the international community can't do anything right. Look how long it took them to try and bring this guy to justice. Compare that with Saddam... he's ON trail RIGHT now.

Saddam will be exactly the same, manufacturing delays. He, insidentally was captured in December and placed on trial in following July.

Anyway the problem is not how long it took for Milosovic to be placed on trial but how long his trial took because of Milosovic's health problems and procrastination.

So much for your theory about this being a sign of superior American efficiency.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Ya, you're right Chris, I should have looked into what excuses would come up first, and worked on defeating those. Saddam's trail is just luck, nothing at all to do with the fact the "international courts" had nothing to do with it. And Milosevic's trial length was nothing to do with the international courts inability it was just bad luck for them...

Keep telling yourself that.

And Zee, keep dreaming pal, cause that day you so desire, will never, ever come to pass. Sane people still rule the world.

[Chris the Chees]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Ya, you're right Chris, I should have looked into what excuses would come up first, and worked on defeating those. Saddam's trail is just luck, nothing at all to do with the fact the "international courts" had nothing to do with it. And Milosevic's trial length was nothing to do with the international courts inability it was just bad luck for them... Keep telling yourself that. And Zee, keep dreaming pal, cause that day you so desire, will never, ever come to pass. Sane people still rule the world.

What excuses would they be? That Milosevic's health delayed the trial? Which you apparently don't believe? Well it turns out the guy just died because of a long term problem with his blood pressure. Gee, V, I can really see you gave this a lot of thought.

Sorry V, but you just forfitted the right to be taken seriously.

[jose]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio This is why the international community can't do anything right. Look how long it took them to try and bring this guy to justice. Compare that with Saddam... he's ON trail RIGHT now.

he´s on trial Mr v not on trail

[Rave7pt0]

Sane people still rule the world.

I must've missed that memo, because you could have fooled me!

[Nono]

Quote by: shrike II defiantly don't going to cry about him.Not that albanians much better they did the same atrocities.

Very self-controlled of you not to howl over his death, shrike.
And that's the style: Relativize the crimes of anybody who happens to pit himself against Muslims. Very ahh.. obsessed of you.

[shrike]

Very self-controlled of you not to howl over his death, shrike. And that's the style: Relativize the crimes of anybody who happens to pit himself against Muslims. Very ahh.. obsessed of you.

Did i say something wrong? Or you claim that Albanians didn't commit any atrocities?

[Nono]

Yes they did, shrike. (You're talking the Kosovar UCK, right? Be specific man!)

Thing about you, shrike old buddy, is that you have a one-track mind. And you'd defend any fascist murderer -- even if he's a rabid anti-Semite (see Russia) -- as long as he's locked in a struggle with Muslims.

Kinda simplistic of you.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Quote by: Chris the Chees What excuses would they be? That Milosevic's health delayed the trial? Which you apparently don't believe? Well it turns out the guy just died because of a long term problem with his blood pressure. Gee, V, I can really see you gave this a lot of thought. Sorry V, but you just forfitted the right to be taken seriously.

Your right. He's been in poor health since they "arrested him" and the delays in his trail had NOTHING to do with the procederes of the court trying him. It was all his health! Nice if you want to believe that is the truth.

Besides, since when has an America hater ever taken me seriously?

Typos, are the bane of my exsistance.

[shrike]

And you'd defend any fascist murderer -- even if he's a rabid anti-Semite (see Russia) -- as long as he's locked in a struggle with Muslims

I think its Ad hom anyway I think both Chechens and Russians committed atrocities but I prefer that Chechenian oil would be in Russian hands than in hand of Muslim fanatics(not that it much better).

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio This is why the international community can't do anything right. Look how long it took them to try and bring this guy to justice. Compare that with Saddam... he's ON trail RIGHT now.

And what a fine example of a trial it is, too. None of those loud diatribes like Slob used to make to disrupt the proceedings and...

Oh wait, Saddam Hussein did that too, as well as his relatives showing up in their underwear and Saddam cursing the judge's moustache and other golden moments the Iraqis can point to with pride.

[rmnunez]

I suppose the critical left must be in despair since Slobo's efforts to summon past US presidents in his defence have come to nought.

[Nono]

Well, rummie, I figure I'm a member in good standing of the "critical left", so I'll answer your question by saying that, as so often, you're out to lunch.
You're straining, yet again, for gnats, boyo.

Tell us, why on earth would a leftist be anything but gratified by the demise of a filthy old fascist like Slobo?

Awaiting your attempts to reply, etc.

[rmnunez]

I can think of a couple of good reasons a critical lefty would be in despair over Slobo's death: Some claimed Slobo offered an alternative to capitalism, something allegedly so appealing the US determined to erradicate him. The most important reason for despair in the left is the classic "enemy of my enemy is friend" doctrine; the US is enemy to the left, Slobo opposed the US, therefore Slobo is a friend to the left.

At trial, Slobo asserted a right to call in his defence a number of US presidents and their cabinet members. Presumably he would demonstrate their intentional wrongdoing in intervening, ulterior motives, plots and conspiracies would be made public revealing the unmitigated greed and malice at the highest levels of the US political establishment -tell me a critical lefty wouldn't lament the loss of that possibility?

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: rmnunez I suppose the critical left must be in despair since Slobo's efforts to summon past US presidents in his defence have come to nought.

Can you kindly explain just what you meant by that? I see ZERO connection with the "critical left" and Slob unless it is just your usual attempt to fling any turd that floats past you at the liberals.

[rmnunez]

Critical lefties hoped Slobo would demonstrate US presidents and their cabinets acted wrongfully in intervening, publicly display and broadcast their ulterior motives, plots and conspiracies which would reveal their unmitigated greed and malice. I think critical lefties regret the loss of that chance.