Churches celebrate Darwin`s birthday

[dthmstr254]

Quote by: rez Thanks for totally avoiding my questions. If I were a potential customer to become a Christian you would horribly fail at getting me to understand and join the christian faith.

actually, I didn't. a man who is alive can still accept people into his family, while a dead guy CAN'T. that is where your theory falls apart.

[RickSp]

This gets so predictable. A thread derailed by our cultist from Chattanooga who claims to be the only judge of Christian righteousness. Boring as well as absurd.

[dthmstr254]

Quote by: RickSp This gets so predictable. A thread derailed by our cultist from Chattanooga who claims to be the only judge of Christian righteousness. Boring as well as absurd.

the BIBLE is the only judge of Christian righteousness.

[RickSp]

Quote by: dthmstr254 the BIBLE is the only judge of Christian righteousness.

And you must be the only true intepreter of the Bible if all those millions of others who claim to be Christian are so very wrong. You and your little group must be the only Christians. The rest of the world is full of imposters, no heretics.

Are you so lacking in insight as to fail to see the lunacy of that position?

[dthmstr254]

Quote by: RickSp And you must be the only true intepreter of the Bible if all those millions of others who claim to be Christian are so very wrong. You and your little group must be the only Christians. The rest of the world is full of imposters, no heretics. Are you so lacking in insight as to fail to see the lunacy of that position?

not all denominations are completely wrong. shoot, if you look at the Baptist denomination, they only have the same beliefs about the major stuff, but each church has slightly different beliefs. for example, some believe in predestination, some don't. I believe that Heaven will have many people from different denominations. I am as sure as I can be that my grandfather is in heaven, even though he was a Catholic. being in the right denomination is not the way to heaven. it is described in the Bible as "if any man shall believe in his heart and confess with his lips the Lord Jesus Christ...he shall be saved."

[RickSp]

Quote by: dthmstr254 not all denominations are completely wrong. shoot, if you look at the Baptist denomination, they only have the same beliefs about the major stuff, but each church has slightly different beliefs. for example, some believe in predestination, some don't. I believe that Heaven will have many people from different denominations. I am as sure as I can be that my grandfather is in heaven, even though he was a Catholic. being in the right denomination is not the way to heaven. it is described in the Bible as "if any man shall believe in his heart and confess with his lips the Lord Jesus Christ...he shall be saved."

How open minded of you. So I guess only about half of all Christians and two thirds of the rest of the world is doomed to eternal damnation by your benevolent diety. Well glory gee.

[dthmstr254]

Quote by: RickSp How open minded of you. So I guess only about half of all Christians and two thirds of the rest of the world is doomed to eternal damnation by your benevolent diety. Well glory gee.

they are damned by their sins. a holy and perfect God cannot look upon sin, therefore it cannot enter his kingdom, and it is a package deal when it comes to us. that is why He died on the cross for our sin, to redeem us from that sin, making the job a hell of a lot easier on us.

[RickSp]

Quote by: dthmstr254 they are damned by their sins. a holy and perfect God cannot look upon sin, therefore it cannot enter his kingdom, and it is a package deal when it comes to us. that is why He died on the cross for our sin, to redeem us from that sin, making the job a hell of a lot easier on us.

LOL. Enjoy talking to yourself.

[another day]

Lol...sometimes I think he doesn't realize we are only humoring him.

[dthmstr254]

Quote by: another day Lol...sometimes I think he doesn't realize we are only humoring him.

oh, I realize this, but I am not doing this just for you.

[Osborn F Enready]

Exactly DthMstr. You recite the same lies over and over again, so they become truth to you, and then eventually you will disengage from society all-together because they seem so hostile towards your "mantra" that you either live on your own, or you pick up a gun and start shooting "evil-doers" in a mission you conceived in your interpretation of your God.

It is no wonder you are such a Bush supporter.

Kill one man, you're a murderer.
Kill many men, you're a leader.
Kill them all, you are a God.

Brainwashed, cultish, nonsense aimed at destroying order, law and liberty in our nation.

Thank you for so eloquently speaking your side of gibberish nonsense, and hatred. You are a service to my cause DthMstr, and the annals of time will show your position as long as this site keeps it posted. Kudos.

[dthmstr254]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready Exactly DthMstr. You recite the same lies over and over again, so they become truth to you, and then eventually you will disengage from society all-together because they seem so hostile towards your "mantra" that you either live on your own, or you pick up a gun and start shooting "evil-doers" in a mission you conceived in your interpretation of your God. It is no wonder you are such a Bush supporter. Kill one man, you're a murderer. Kill many men, you're a leader. Kill them all, you are a God. Brainwashed, cultish, nonsense aimed at destroying order, law and liberty in our nation. Thank you for so eloquently speaking your side of gibberish nonsense, and hatred. You are a service to my cause DthMstr, and the annals of time will show your position as long as this site keeps it posted. Kudos.

kill anyone, you are a murderer, save the lives of many men, you are a leader, save them all, you are a God. that is how it goes in here. Bush saved countless other lives in deseating the Hussein tyranny. I have a question: would we have remained in WW2 had today's media been there? my answer, and the answer of every recruit that was heading to Valdosta from Fort Benning: hell no.

[icurhuman2]

Those who don't believe in Darwin's "Theory" should refuse to believe that the H5N1 flu strain won't evolve into a deadly human-to-human strain and refuse any vaccines based on the epidemiological premise of evolutionary changes in bacterium. Then the rest of us can sit back and watch Natural Selection at work - generationally speaking, that would see a precipitous decline in religious nutcases everywhere...

[Jack]

wrong, the definition of cult: A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. The followers of such a religion or sect. most Christians don't follow an authoritarian leader, they follow an authoritative leader.

Google's definition of authoritarian includes;
...expecting unquestioning obedience...
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

used to describe an organization or a state which enforces strong and sometimes oppressive measures against the population, generally without attempts at gaining the consent of the population.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian

That seems to fit the christian god perfectly. Princeton also defines cult as;
adherents of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices
fad: an interest followed with exaggerated zeal; "he always follows the latest fads"; "it was all the rage that season"
a system of religious beliefs and rituals; "devoted to the cultus of the Blessed Virgin"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Christianity fits this definition. I think this def is fairly unbiased and doesn't suggest a negative image. Of course when most of us non-theists use the term cult we are indeed using it with a negative connotation.

[Rainbow]

Quote by: icurhuman2 Those who don't believe in Darwin's "Theory" should refuse to believe that the H5N1 flu strain won't evolve into a deadly human-to-human strain and refuse any vaccines based on the epidemiological premise of evolutionary changes in bacterium. Then the rest of us can sit back and watch Natural Selection at work - generationally speaking, that would see a precipitous decline in religious nutcases everywhere...

Darwin's theory is nothing but theory.

Some churches want to celebrate Darwin birthday ?
That is those churches business.
Some churches do not want to celebrate Darwin birthday ?
That is those churches business.

What is to be debated, then ?
Which church celebrates what ? :-)

[icurhuman2]

Quote by: Rainbow Darwin's theory is nothing but theory. Some churches want to celebrate Darwin birthday ? That is those churches business. Some churches do not want to celebrate Darwin birthday ? That is those churches business. What is to be debated, then ? Which church celebrates what ? :-)

How about we forget about Darwin? Why don't we have a go at those pesky geologists who keep telling us that "...since this stalagmite grows at 1 millimetre a year we can assume that this is at least 30,000 years old." or "... that continental drift described backwards suggests that the Earth is 3 billion to 4 billion years old. Why don't we give those heretic astronomers a serving too... How dare they measure the light from distant galaxies as having travelled for billions of years. How could they measure the distance from one side of our own galaxy to the other as being in the many tens of thousands of light years? The Christian bible says the entire universe is only ten thousand years old!
And, of course, everyone knows that dinosaurs where in the garden of Eden. Yeah sure. And I've got mammoths living in my backyard... I suppose mammoths were in the garden of Eden with the dinosaurs too huh?
Some people ARE dumb!

[Rainbow]

Quote by: icurhuman2 How about we forget about Darwin? Why don't we have a go at those pesky geologists who keep telling us that "...since this stalagmite grows at 1 millimetre a year we can assume that this is at least 30,000 years old." or "... that continental drift described backwards suggests that the Earth is 3 billion to 4 billion years old. Why don't we give those heretic astronomers a serving too... How dare they measure the light from distant galaxies as having travelled for billions of years. How could they measure the distance from one side of our own galaxy to the other as being in the many tens of thousands of light years? The Christian bible says the entire universe is only ten thousand years old! And, of course, everyone knows that dinosaurs where in the garden of Eden. Yeah sure. And I've got mammoths living in my backyard... I suppose mammoths were in the garden of Eden with the dinosaurs too huh? Some people ARE dumb!

Off Topic
Ability to read the text, does not grant and/or promote the understanding one, by its default.
If there are dumb people that have problems with understanding a submitted text, it is none of my business to lecture them on that.

I understand you present an extra-oridinary knowledge on subjects you attempt to present.
Have you ever considered Yale (for example) ?

[Jack]

It seems only fair that churches would celebrate Darwin's birthday (but what do you buy as a present for a dead guy?) since so many evolutionists celebrate Christmas. Quid pro quo, I believe.

[dthmstr254]

Quote by: Isherwood It seems only fair that churches would celebrate Darwin's birthday (but what do you buy as a present for a dead guy?) since so many evolutionists celebrate Christmas. Quid pro quo, I believe.

difference is, what Christmas is to evolutionists is a time of "me, me, me." what I see out of many atheists is the whole "who got the best toys" contest going on. and they even want to quit saying Christmas and replace it with happy holidays. they see it as the celebration of a jolly fat man who comes down our chimney on Christmas eve. they don't see the true reason for Christmas, they even fail to acknowledge that Christ's birth is the true reason for the holiday. if it weren't for Christians, there would be no Christmas.

as for why Christians should not celebrate Darwin's birthday, let's just say that Darwin took the opposite path. his theories have remained nothing more than they are, simply theories. all-be-it praised theories, they still have not passed the barrier of the burden of proof. why do psychologists deny the scientific credibility of parapsychology (the belief in ESP)? because of the lack of replicable evidence(Exploring Psychology, 2004. why was the standard model of quantum physics dropped? because of the lack of replicable evidence and the upshooting of new evidence via the Poltergeist experiment headed by Ray Davis and many subsequent experiments which proved that neutrinos could change "flavors" (Nova, The Ghost Particle, 2000). why would I reject the theory of evolution? because of the lack of replicable evidence.

secondly, Darwin's followers have created a theory that leaves no room for God. as many people from the generations prior to modern science had formed opinions on philosophy, they did so through the glass of evolution, which provided only the evidence which would bolster their case, while hiding away the evidence which could prove fatal to the theory. such evidence would include the impossibility of a single celled organism to become multi-cellular under any circumstances. the people who learned under this filter saw no placement for God in natural selection, for if God could CREATE life, then he could control it as well, thus removing the process of natural selection and making every organism on this earth a product of deity-selection. they are now the ones controlling congress and kicking God out of everyday life. why, as the targeted group for unhostile removal, should the church have anything to do with Darwin's birthday, seeing what his followers have done to the church?

[Matt W]

if it weren't for Christians, there would be no Christmas.

Wrong. There were festivals going on all over the world at that time prior to 25th December becoming Christmas.