Cheney Accidentally Shoots Fellow Hunter

[Athena]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Now we find out it happened over 24 hours ago. The law says you have to report hunting accidents immediately. Not sure about the law if it wasnt an accident. If it was an accident, why wait so long to report it?

Cheney is above the law. He can hunt without a license or do anything he wants to do, because there are no consequences when a person has the power he has.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Athena Cheney is above the law. He can hunt without a license or do anything he wants to do, because there are no consequences when a person has the power he has.

Maybe in his mind. Is he really any better than anyone else when it comes to the law?
The way its set up, we are all different, but equal under the law. If anything he should be our best and brightest representative of the people. A shining example of judgement and character.

Not a bloodthirsty monster for war and profiteering.

[another day]

It's amazing how fast you have convinced yourself that Cheney was drunk based on nothing more then a deleted paragraph from a news story.

[brien]

Quote by: Athena Cheney is above the law. He can hunt without a license or do anything he wants to do, because there are no consequences when a person has the power he has.

Athena: the VEEP had a hunting license but didn't have the required $7.00 bird stamp. This is a violation of the law for which he has already sent his check to Tx for the bird stamp. No fine that I know of yet. You or me, no Bird stamp, we would be fined as well as having to pay the $7.00 stamp fee.

As for all of this whoopala, there are politicians on both sides of the isle who are guilty of the same thing that the VEEP seems to be guilty of here. I am not defending him at all, but witness: Harry Reed, and his heart condition, some say a four day wait before announcement, Hillary Clinton, with the Vince Foster affair, some say a 30 hour wait before a statement from her, Ted Kennedy and his Mary Jo Kopecne, the following day at mid-day noon he turns himself over to the local constable, and on and on. It isn't the first time, and probably won't be the last time, politicians thumb their nose at the media and the law.

My expectations of the VEEP are not diminished one iota by this situation because I don't expect him to be the picture of the honest politician here. "Honest poltician", now there's an oxymoron. Hypocrites, the lot of them.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: another day It's amazing how fast you have convinced yourself that Cheney was drunk based on nothing more then a deleted paragraph from a news story.

Its NOT only that. The secrecy involved, including the postponement of interview SCREAM it. If somebody hits a car while drunk, they would want to sober up before talking to the cops. Just the way it is. That is why you have so many hit and runs. I am sure there are statistics out there but they cannot be completely accurate because many who flee the scene of a crime dont have the same luxury as the Veep. Also, how do you confirm intoxication of those who get away with it?

I dont know about you, but this little "No Comment" speaks volumes to me:

RAW STORY The last question of the press conference was whether or not Whittington's blood alcohol had ever been tested. The response: "No comment."

They are doing more to prove their guilt, than their innocence.

We should also consider Cheneys OWN ADMISSION that he WAS DRINKING.

The interview will not air in full until 6 p.m. but according to Hume, in summaring the contents, the vice president remained "totally unapologetic" about the long lag in reporting the shooting to the public-- and also said that he had consumed one beer at lunch that day. source....

Ever hear of a person UNDERESTIMATING how many drinks they have had?

[RickSp]

It's 'Cheney's Law' in Albany, but He Wouldn't Claim It

Named laws are nothing new in Albany. From Megan's Law to Kendra's Law to VaSean's Law, state lawmakers often use names to try to put a human face on the occasionally arcane issues that they address with their legislation. Usually the laws are named for the victims of violence. But now a bill on hunting safety that has been introduced in several legislative sessions but never became law has been christened "Cheney's Law" by several Republican senators. The bill, which would make it a felony to leave the scene of a hunting accident, passed out of the Senate Codes Committee yesterday, just as much of the nation continued to discuss Vice President Dick Cheney's accident on Saturday, in which he shot and wounded a 78-year-old lawyer while on a hunting trip in Texas.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: brien Athena: the VEEP had a hunting license but didn't have the required $7.00 bird stamp. This is a violation of the law for which he has already sent his check to Tx for the bird stamp. No fine that I know of yet. You or me, no Bird stamp, we would be fined as well as having to pay the $7.00 stamp fee.

I think they call it POACHING, when you and I do the same thing.

Kinda like trying to pay for something after you get caught shoplifting it.
Except in the real world, that aint gonna happen.

[gr8fuldaniel]

RickSp,
That article is a good find. Did you see the last line?

Gov. George E. Pataki, meanwhile, was asked at a news conference if he would accept an invitation to go hunting with Mr. Cheney. The governor merely smiled and said he would not comment.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel I got thrown in jail for 3 fucking days for fishing without a license. Why is Cheney only given a warning citation and why didnt he sign it?

That sounds a mite stiff for fishing, regardless of who you are. As for Blofeld, he IS the veep after all and rank like that DOES have some priveleges.

Footnote: As for Cheneys doctors orders; would he be the first idiot to drink against doctors orders? Zillions of people shouldnt drink, that all goes out the window when the first sip is indulged and sound judgement is aborted.

I would expect that from Bush, who DOES have a history with booze, but not Blofeld. Is there anything about him having a drinking problem?
Our esteemed Vice President apparently gets drunk on his power and you can't do that when youre dead. Think what you want about him, but stupid he ain't.

[Apeman81]

I love this tempest in a teapot distraction from real life, the charge of which some in the media are fanning!

Good fodder fodder for the conspiracy types.

As for holding off a shooting story, Clinton fired a round it took him over a year to admit to.

[Matt W]

Ah, but that old saying comes back again, Apeman - with much more poignancy this time around:-

When Clinton lied...no-one died.

[RickSp]

Quote by: Apeman81 As for holding off a shooting story, Clinton fired a round it took him over a year to admit to.

Clinton hit a blue dress and Cheney shot a 78 year old friend in the face.

And while this silliness is going on a couple of Marines have died in King George's needless war. Cheney may be in part to blame, but he didn't do the shooting.

Roadside Bomb Kills U.S. Marine

[Apeman81]

Quote by: RickSp Clinton hit a blue dress and Cheney shot a 78 year old friend in the face. And while this silliness is going on a couple of Marines have died in King George's needless war. Cheney may be in part to blame, but he didn't do the shooting. Roadside Bomb Kills U.S. Marine

I should think that the shitheel terrorists who planted the bomb are responsible. They don't fight for freedom for Iraqis. They don't fight to create an autonomous government for the people. They are vermin, and they are at fault.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: RickSp Cheney may be in part to blame, but he didn't do the shooting.

Speaking of shooting, I wonder if the great white hunter would have been a little more responsible with a rifle if he had taken advantage of Uncle Sam's free gun training instead of taking five deferments from the Vietnam war.

[RickSp]

Quote by: Apeman81 I should think that the shitheel terrorists who planted the bomb are responsible. They don't fight for freedom for Iraqis. They don't fight to create an autonomous government for the people. They are vermin, and they are at fault.

You don't know who planted the bomb, do you? Since most Iraqis oppose the occupation and almost half support attacking coalition troops, you are painting with a broad brush when you call the insurgency vermin. Less than 5% of the insurgency are foreign fighters, if you believe the Iraqi Interior ministry.

Scrib, I heard Allan Specter of TV last night. He says Cheney is a great shot with a shotgun. Says he saw Cheney bag two doves, one with each barrel, once upon a time. I doubt his deferment has stopped him from practicing. Don't know how he is with a rifle.

I grew up in Texas. Lots of fat rich white guys down there are really good at shooting little birds with shotguns when they aren't shooting each other.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: RickSp Scrib, I heard Allan Specter of TV last night. He says Cheney is a great shot with a shotgun. Says he saw Cheney bag two doves, one with each barrel, once upon a time. I doubt his deferment has stopped him from practicing. Don't know how he is with a rifle.

Actually that was just a dig at Blofeld's draft "avoidance" which I threw in to counter the pathetically predictable Clinton shot.

My feeling is this was an ordinary hunting accident which would not have raised any eyebrows if Blofeld had only come clean about it right away. I even almost felt sorry for Scott McClellan when he came out and made those weak jokes about the incident, not knowing the old man had suffered a heart attack because he wasn't told. Any fallout or controversy around this story is entirely the fault of the Vee Pee.
And it's just another example of who calls the shots in this administration. If Bush was any kind of leader he should have been publicly furious at this unnecesary show of independence from his subordinate.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Scribbler I would expect that from Bush, who DOES have a history with booze, but not Blofeld. Is there anything about him having a drinking problem?

Cheney has had at least 2 DUI's


Hey, how about this? MSNBC UNSCRUBS beer reference after Cheney, sorta comes clean....

Think Progress MSNBC’s Missing Paragraph Reappears; Reporter Misled By VP’s Office Last night, MSNBC scrubbed a paragraph about alcohol from an online article about Cheney’s hunting accident: Now, they’ve restored the paragraph, slightly reworked: In a recorded, on-the-record phone call with NBC News, Armstrong said that beer may have been available at lunch that day. “If someone wants to help themselves to a beer,” she said, “they may, but I did not see anyone do that,” Armstrong says. She says she was not sure if there were beers in the coolers but wasn’t ready to rule it out: “There may be a beer or two in there, but remember not everyone in the party was shooting,” she told NBC News. The story also now suggests that the White House misled MSNBC about whether Cheney had consumed alcohol. A new paragraph from the revised article: NBC News called the vice president’s office for comment four times Tuesday and Wednesday and asked whether the vice president or anyone in the hunting party had consumed any alcohol on Saturday prior to the accident. In an e-mail statement Wednesday to NBC News, the vice president’s press secretary referred NBC News to the Kenedy County Sheriff’s Department report on the incident. The sheriff’s report says “there was no alcohol…involved in the incident.” Cheney told Brit Hume that he drank beer prior to the accident. Question: Did the White House pressure MSNBC to remove the paragraph last night?

I smell a Grand Jury investigation. The Sherriff and the Game Warden both just went along with the "OFFICIAL STORY". No alcohol.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Cheney has had at least 2 DUI's Hey, how about this? MSNBC UNSCRUBS beer reference after Cheney, sorta comes clean....I smell a Grand Jury investigation. The Sherriff and the Game Warden both just went along with the "OFFICIAL STORY". No alcohol.

I have to admit, if the cops would have been near me years ago I could have gotten nailed for DUI a LOT more times than Blofeld. Under some circumstances you can be technically over the limit after 3 beers in a whole hour.

I don't like this bird any more than you do but this DUI thing is a non issue.

[another day]

Why the hell do you keep calling him "blofeld"?

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Scribbler I don't like this bird any more than you do but this DUI thing is a non issue

You brought it up. You asked me if he had any history. So I found that. The way they scrub records dont expect much more than that. You said "Is there anything about him having a drinking problem?"

Speaking from my own experience, I have driven over a thousand times drunk on my ass. But, I have only been charged with 5 DUIs. Apply that math to a fat cat politician.

Edit to add:
Not to worry folks, I have been clean and sober for over 11 years now. The streets are a bit safer as long as I am sober.