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Old Feb 13, 2006, 05:58 pm   #41 (permalink) (top)
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I got this in an email, source unknown:

CHENEY SAYS SHOOTING OF FELLOW HUNTER WAS BASED ON FAULTY INTELLIGENCE
Believed Shooting Victim Was Zawahiri, Veep Says

Vice President Dick Cheney revealed today that he shot a fellow hunter while on a quail hunting trip over the weekend because he believed the man was the fugitive terror mastermind Ayman al-Zawahiri.
I love Andy Borowitz. His humor is so often dead on target. Unlike Dick Cheney's.


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Old Feb 13, 2006, 06:02 pm   #42 (permalink) (top)
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Pretty funny Zeebadee.

I found both of these on Huffington Post:

You all might enjoy this game: Cheney Hunt


Doesnt the patient look a lot like Scooter?
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Old Feb 13, 2006, 06:26 pm   #43 (permalink) (top)
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In a speech to the NRA,
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Cheney described himself and President Bush as "lifelong gun owners, hunters, and anglers -- and strong believers in the Bill of Rights of the Constitution. Like many of you, I grew up close to the land, learned from my dad how to handle a gun, and still look forward to every chance to join up with friends to go hunting."
So...........Who wants to go huntin' with the big Dick this weekend?



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"Honestly, I didn't mean to shoot Scoot-- I mean, Harry Whittington," the vice president told reporters in "Mr. Whittington's" hospital recovery room.

The shooting occurred several days after it was revealed that Mr. Libby told special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald he was ordered by Vice President Cheney to leak classified national security documents to the press. The revelation could cost Cheney his job and whatever remains of his reputation amongst both Democrats and Republicans.

An EMT who attended to "Mr. Whittington" told the Huffington Post that, during the ambulance ride, he overheard Cheney mumbling, "Who's leaking now, f***ker?" and, "F***ker survived. Gotta work on my aim."

The EMT later remarked to the vice president, "Harry Whittington? That sounds like a made-up name." When contacted for clarification on Cheney's reply, the Huffington Post has learned the emergency worker has disappeared.
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Old Feb 13, 2006, 06:41 pm   #44 (permalink) (top)
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gr8fuldaniel, I'm waiting on you to quote the law, please?
HB 1806 Hunting injury
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In addition, the person who causes an injury or damages property while hunting or trapping is required to report the incident immediately to a law-enforcement officer. The failure to provide assistance to the injured person or immediately report the hunting-related injury is a Class 6 felony.
I wasnt aware when I posted this that the HB1806 is a Virginia House Bill. Texas must have something similar because California has the same law. (I know from taking the hunter safety class myself just a couple years ago) It just isnt easy to find on the net.
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Old Feb 13, 2006, 06:57 pm   #45 (permalink) (top)
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What I am wondering is how Karl Rove will manage to blame the shooting on either Kerry, Dean or Hillary.
No no no, It was BILL Clinton's fault! Stay focused. It's always HIS fault.
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Old Feb 13, 2006, 08:01 pm   #46 (permalink) (top)
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No no no, It was BILL Clinton's fault! Stay focused. It's always HIS fault.
Oh course. How could I have been so wrong? Thank you sir for pointing out the obvious error in my perspective. Clinton is Satan. It is so obvious.


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Old Feb 13, 2006, 10:58 pm   #47 (permalink) (top)
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Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and injured a man during a weekend quail hunting
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- never go hunting, with Cheney :-)
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Old Feb 14, 2006, 02:04 am   #48 (permalink) (top)
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Cheneys citation found on The Smoking GunPage 1 of 3

It seems Cheney fled the scene before signing the bottom of page 2 where it says RECIEVED BY:
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Old Feb 14, 2006, 03:12 am   #49 (permalink) (top)
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Ahaahhaha...

The daily show segment was hilarious!
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Old Feb 14, 2006, 12:36 pm   #50 (permalink) (top)
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The daily show segment was hilarious!

I say:
Oh man do I know that. I am waiting for that show to repeat today so I can tape it.

(This just in, breaking news, it appears the VICE PRESIDENT has shot a 78 year old man, in the FACE!)

Rob Corddry and Ed Helms reports cracked me the funk up.


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Old Feb 14, 2006, 03:52 pm   #51 (permalink) (top)
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Cheney Shooting Victim Suffers “Heart Attack” After Pellet Becomes Lodged In His Heart...
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CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas - The 78-year-old lawyer who was shot by Vice President Dick Cheney in a hunting accident has some birdshot lodged in his heart and he had a "minor heart attack," a hospital official said Tuesday.

Peter Banko, the hospital administrator at Christus Spohn Hospital Corpus Christi-Memorial, said Harry Whittington had the heart attack early Tuesday while being evaluated.

He said there was an irregularity in the heartbeat caused by a birdshot pellet, and doctors performed a cardiac catheterization. Whittington expressed a desire to leave the hospital, but Banko said he would probably stay for another week.

more...
Its been all fun and games. Until now.
What if the guy dies? Wouldnt that be negligent homicide? Or does that only apply to those below the ruling class?
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Types of Negligent Homicide

The first of these, negligent homicide, is the killing of another person through gross negligence or without malice. It can also be considered a death that is the result of the negligent operation of a motor vehicle, which includes the operation of a boat or snowmobile. In some states, the term negligent homicide replaces the terminology of manslaughter (involuntary) with similar defining. Unintentional killing(s) in which the actor(s) should have known they were creating substantial and unjustified risks of death by conduct that grossly deviated from ordinary care summarizes the relationship between the definitions of these terms (Samaha, 2002, p. 536).


Elements and Types of Involuntary Manslaughter

Three versions of manslaughter (involuntary) exist. Involuntary manslaughter is separated into criminal reckless manslaughter, (gross) criminal negligence manslaughter, and unlawful or misdemeanor manslaughter. They vary by their degree of Mens Rea, or the mental mindset of the person committing the crime. A person who is held aware is also viewed more responsible for his or her actions. The Mens Rea element is the creation of risk involved with killing or seriously injuring another person either recklessly or negligently. All the other aspects are the same. The Actus Reus, the actual act constituting a criminal offense, is the killing of another person. The circumstance is the death during the commission of the unlawful act and the causation is any act that triggers a chain of events, which lead to the death of another person. The result obviously is the death of this other person (Samaha, 2002, p. 372).

Black’s Law Dictionary with Pronunciations, sixth edition defines the following terms: manslaughter, involuntary, and accidental killing. It states manslaughter as "the unjustifiable, inexcusable and intentional killing of a human being without deliberation, premeditation and malice." The definition continues to include "the unlawful killing of a human without deliberation, which may be involuntary, in the commission of a lawful act without due causation and circumspection" (1992, p. 964). Specifically, the defining of the term involuntary "is that which is performed under duress, force, or coercion" (1992, p. 827). Accidental killing on the other hand is in contrast to involuntary. It is defined as "an act which is lawful and lawfully done under a reasonable belief that no harm is possible" (1992, p. 16).
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How do we determine Intent when the perp is in contempt of the Sherriff ?

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Old Feb 14, 2006, 04:13 pm   #52 (permalink) (top)
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Holy crap, that was funny. I just saw it online. "Thank you Jesus"


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Old Feb 14, 2006, 04:57 pm   #53 (permalink) (top)
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Holy crap, that was funny. I just saw it online. "Thank you Jesus"

Do you mean that the fact this guy may die is funny? You don't really mean this, do you?

I am certain there are many people hoping that this guy Whittington dies so they can use it as a "bullet" in their anti Cheney gun, no pun intended, but even though I don't agree with Cheney's poltics, I don't wish him ill at the expense of an innocent victim.

Furthermore, if VP Cheney is responsible to the law for any illegal activity, he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of that law. But to wish the death of this guy just to have grounds to prosecute Cheney, is reprehensible and immoral.


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Old Feb 14, 2006, 05:02 pm   #54 (permalink) (top)
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Do you mean that the fact this guy may die is funny?
No, I was talking about the Daily Show. I don't have a link, just goto comedycentral and it's easy enough to find.


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Old Feb 14, 2006, 05:09 pm   #55 (permalink) (top)
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No, I was talking about the Daily Show. I don't have a link, just goto comedycentral and it's easy enough to find.
Oh, 10-4, as they say......I am aware of J D Thanks...


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Old Feb 15, 2006, 02:02 am   #56 (permalink) (top)
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The NY Times
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....the district attorney in Kleberg County, said a fatality would require a new report from the local sheriff and, most likely, a grand jury investigation.
The Sherriff screwed up from the git-go. What if this wasnt even a hunting accident? Did the cops ever investigate the crime scene......er, "accident" scene? Theres a good reason why Cheney did not "Do the right thing".

Best reason the attorneys are coming up with?

Dick had to sober up first.
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 03:03 am   #57 (permalink) (top)
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Found on RAW STORY:
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The following paragraph was removed for unexplained reasons from the article sometime after it first was published on the Internet:

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Armstrong also told NBC News that she does not believe alcohol was involved in the accident. She says she believes no one that day was drinking, although she says there may have been beer available during a picnic lunch that preceded the incident. "There may be a beer or two in there," she said, "but remember not everyone in the party was shooting."
Why do you suppose MSNBC would need to scrub that paragraph?
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 11:27 am   #58 (permalink) (top)
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Best reason the attorneys are coming up with?

Dick had to sober up first.
Is there anything on this angle? It seems with Blofeld's bum ticker heavy drinking would be frowned upon by his doctors.
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Old Feb 15, 2006, 02:44 pm   #59 (permalink) (top)
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Is there anything on this angle? It seems with Blofeld's bum ticker heavy drinking would be frowned upon by his doctors.
There was an article written by an attorney, I thought I had posted it here, but I dont see it now. It was late last night, I thought the link was on Huff Post. I found the statement below by Lawrence O'Donnell making reference to the suspect. Is there a valid reason for MSNBC scrubbing the drinking portion from their story unless it were a problem for the regime?
If this were an accident, Cheney would have no rational reason to avoid the cops.
We should not have to speculate, but given the suspicious nature of the incident, sometimes we have to do some detective work.
Take the words of the Sherriff:
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"This was a hunting accident," said Gilbert San Miguel, chief deputy of the Kenedy County Sheriff's Office. "There was no alcohol or misconduct."
Oh, really? How did he arrive at this conclusion? Solid police investigation? Or speculation? There was no interview until the next day and even then, there is no mention of a "Face to Face" with Dick and the cops. Cheney did not SIGN the damn Citation for hunting without the required Bird Stamp. I got thrown in jail for 3 fucking days for fishing without a license. Why is Cheney only given a warning citation and why didnt he sign it?

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Lawrence O'Donnell: "Every lawyer I've talked to assumes Cheney was too drunk to talk to the cops after the shooting. The next question for the White House should be: Was Cheney drunk?"
Other scenarios:
Crimes of passion need time for the perp to get their story straight.

If there were a need for a "cleaner". To fix the crime scene.

The crime scene could have also been the scene of a drunken orgy, that doesnt need to get outed.

Whatever it is it sure is a good distraction from his other, more impeachable offenses.

Scribbler if/when I can find that article by the lawyer I will post it.

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As for Cheneys doctors orders; would he be the first idiot to drink against doctors orders?
Zillions of people shouldnt drink, that all goes out the window when the first sip is indulged and sound judgement is aborted.

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Old Feb 15, 2006, 03:38 pm   #60 (permalink) (top)
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Notice the box is checked NO for "Under apparent influence of alcohol or drugs" on PAGE ONE (post #48) of Game Wardens citation. Shouldnt the Game Warden have checked the "Unknown" box, to save his own ass? This guy could get promoted to DHS Boss for mistakes like that. Watch that carreer take off immediately.

This is page 2 of the Game Wardens citation.
Notice he date is MONDAY, Feb 13, 2006 (the incident was Saturday).

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