Pakistan Tells U.S. Not to Repeat Attack

[gr8fuldaniel]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=1529324

Pakistani President Tells Senior U.S. Official Airstrike Cannot Be Repeated ISLAMABAD, Pakistan Jan 21, 2006 — Pakistan's president told a senior American official Saturday the United States must not repeat airstrikes like the one that apparently was aimed at al-Qaida but killed civilians in a remote village, as officials sought to soothe public outrage over the attack. Also Saturday, two Pakistani intelligence officials told The Associated Press a captured al-Qaida leader had informed interrogators that he had met Ayman al-Zawahri, Osama bin Laden's top deputy, last year at one of the homes that was hit. President Gen. Pervez Musharraf assured visiting U.S. Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns that Pakistan would not waver in its support for Washington's war on terrorism but said such airstrikes must not be repeated, a Foreign Ministry official said. The attack prompted nationwide protests calling for Musharraf's ouster. More...

[Jack]

President Gen. Pervez Musharraf ...said such airstrikes must not be repeated,

I'm having a Jon Dailey moment. I picture poor Musharraf shaking his fist at the U.S. representative and saying, "Don't let us ever catch you...uh...bombing the crap out of us for no reason...ever...again, or we'll...uh...do something about it."

[Osborn F Enready]

This is how Bush "brings people together" in the WAR on terror.

This is Bush's method of "pre-emptive" warfare.

If he bombs enough people, there won't be any left to be recruited by anybody, especially terrorists.........Never mind that public support issue, he doesn't read papers, or watch polls!
Don't mess with Texas! :rolleyes:

[Scribbler1]

Musharraf is one of the few leaders of a predominantly Muslim country who is, at least in public, on OUR side. I would blame Bush only in the sense that he is the CinC. I don't think he is all that "hands on" when it comes to operations. But whoever authorized this strike should be kicked out of the service at the very least.

[Ghumanto]

Quote by: Scribbler1 Musharraf is one of the few leaders of a predominantly Muslim country who is, at least in public, on OUR side. I would blame Bush only in the sense that he is the CinC. I don't think he is all that "hands on" when it comes to operations. But whoever authorized this strike should be kicked out of the service at the very least.

- what can US do if they know that Zawaheri was there and the only possible way to kill him was to fire missiles ? If the mission was successful Bush would have the cheeers allover the world.
- Muslim countries has very different view on OBL / Al qaeda. Frankly speaking , soon after 9/11 , I heard common people saying -
" the attack on WTC is not acceptable but the attack on Pentagon is great ".
" Pentagon should have been attacked by all the airplanes cause this is the devils workshop "
" Al Qaeda is nothing but an undercover party of CIA."
" Al Qaeda is working on behalf the Saudis not on behalf of the Muslims ".
" OBL should attack the kings "
" Palestinians will suffer for this ; no one will gain except Israel ".

Remember these are the views of common people on the street of Dhaka - the 3rd largest Muslim nation.
I believe all Muslims has something similar feeling. They feel the pain of the palestinians / Kashimiris / Chechens but they don't support the murders in WTC / London / Madrid.
Offcourse they feel the urge to punish the US/UK/Israel for the killings of thousands of innocent poeple and since they don't have a mean to express their anger - some are thinking OBL is doing the right job.
Now, here comes the main point - OBL is doing good or bad to the Muslims ??

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: Ghumanto - what can US do if they know that Zawaheri was there and the only possible way to kill him was to fire missiles ? If the mission was successful Bush would have the cheeers allover the world.

But probably not in Pakistan. They don't like being bombed I hear.

- Muslim countries has very different view on OBL / Al qaeda. Frankly speaking , soon after 9/11 , I heard common people saying - " the attack on WTC is not acceptable but the attack on Pentagon is great ". " Pentagon should have been attacked by all the airplanes cause this is the devils workshop " " Al Qaeda is nothing but an undercover party of CIA." " Al Qaeda is working on behalf the Saudis not on behalf of the Muslims ". " OBL should attack the kings " " Palestinians will suffer for this ; no one will gain except Israel ".

Source? What I hear is that OBL is something of a hero in Pakistan, having stood up to the big bad USA and all. Of course not everyone will be in the Osama fan club but people respect that David and Goliath kind of thing, and he IS a Muslim. Also, they have no reason whatsoever to side with us.

[bishop]

i dunno.. i think if we did kill the intended target, pakistan would've tried to bill this as a joint operation.. can't put too much stock in a dictatorship to really give a damn about people living in a region beyond its own control.

pakistan's outrage is nothing more than musharraf playing damage control. he's been walking the political tight-rope for years now, trying to do anything and everything to prevent himself from being overthrown/killed.

[SteveA]

Actually I've wondered about Al Qaeda as well. They have headquarters that are publicly known in many places. The reports shortly after 9/11 were that the attackers were primarily from Saudi Arabia (at least that's what I remembered hearing). Using Al Qaeda as a front to "recruit" terrorists seems a very likely tactic to be used ... I have no idea how much of that is true but it would seem to make sense. I wouldn't be surprised if the more publicized terrorist groups had anti-terrorist elements recruiting under the name.

[bishop]

al qaeda has new headquarters? where (do you have a link)?

[Ghumanto]

Quote by: Scribbler1 But probably not in Pakistan. They don't like being bombed I hear.

No country want to be bombed ! All the countries no this except US ( why on Earth they go on bombing Iraq..........).

ISource? What I hear is that OBL is something of a hero in Pakistan, having stood up to the big bad USA and all. Of course not everyone will be in the Osama fan club but people respect that David and Goliath kind of thing, and he IS a Muslim. Also, they have no reason whatsoever to side with us.[/quote]

I wrote " I heard common people saying on the streets ". I do trust my ears more than newspapers .
OBL is a hero to many in Muslim countries - True. Saddam is a hero also. Why ? because they are brave enough to stand up against US hegemony while others are cow towing .
When there is a lack of true hero - the demi heros got the lime light .
Interestingly, you'll find most Muslims are very fond of Mahathir while still think OBL did something good . And it is Mahathir who denounced those fanatics ( as well as US hegemony ).

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: Ghumanto I wrote " I heard common people saying on the streets ". I do trust my ears more than newspapers .

That is a limited resource at best. While "from the horses mouth" may be reliable you'd need to listen to a WHOLE LOT of people to gain any meaningful insight into a situation. Using personal experience as an addition to information from news outlets is better but I'm sure you have a job or something that occupies your time. Remember, getting that information IS a reporter's job. In an ideal situation they have more man-hours and more resources to get this information.
They're not always accurate and not always responsible and sometimes just plain dishonest, but they DO go a lot deeper than some of the people you know.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: bishop al qaeda has new headquarters? where (do you have a link)?

[snake]

Thats pretty funny, no seriously though let us not forget that alot of the men we are hunting are hiding in pakistan. Dont turn them into angels. They should not harbour terrorists! I mean it is simple and it has been stated before, I guess ill say it again..."Any nation or rogue state who harbours terrorists or enemies of the United States is subject to attack", Pakistani politicians were dancing to this music before it came to their soil...it is sad some civilians died but guess what so did about 5000 of our people and the men responsible are in their country and Pakistan is doing nothing. True they are an ally, but if they would not allow these men to stay in their country they would not be in this situation. I would think this is just the start of many US attacks on Pakistan, just as long as the focal point of this war(osama) is in their country, they will be in the crosshairs of american strategy makers.

[bishop]

i don't really see pakistan as an ally.. their interests are to win favors from our corrupt government - they have no interest in helping us capture al qaeda's chiefs.. remember that this is the same pakistan that helped the taliban (who helped al qaeda), who sponsored kashmiri terrorism, who helped n. korea develop nuclear weapons and has helped iran in its research as well.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: bishop i don't really see pakistan as an ally.. their interests are to win favors from our corrupt government - they have no interest in helping us capture al qaeda's chiefs.. remember that this is the same pakistan that helped the taliban (who helped al qaeda), who sponsored kashmiri terrorism, who helped n. korea develop nuclear weapons and has helped iran in its research as well.

Absolutely. Musharraf is no different from any other politician in that he will do what's best for him. I would classify his dealings with us an alliance of convenience.

[RickSp]

Here we have the final outcome of the Bush administration's failure to finish the job in Afghanistan in favor of charging off to invade Iraq. Now we have the worst of all possible scenarios. OBL is on the loose, ALQaeda is restablishing itself in Pakistan and Iraq is becoming a more dangerous center for terror than Afghanistan ever was, at least if you believe Bush's own CIA. Thank you Mr. President.

[SteveA]

Quote by: RickSp Here we have the final outcome of the Bush administration's failure to finish the job in Afghanistan in favor of charging off to invade Iraq. Now we have the worst of all possible scenarios. OBL is on the loose, ALQaeda is restablishing itself in Pakistan and Iraq is becoming a more dangerous center for terror than Afghanistan ever was, at least if you believe Bush's own CIA. Thank you Mr. President.

This is yet another reason why ignorance in America isn't simply a problem with our education system, it's truly dangerous. You've got a ton of people running around wanting more U.S. police and military actions not even realize that, even if they don't care how it affects others in the world, it still harms America too.

I don't see a problem with someone being patriotic but you'd assume that includes a desire not to trash the place.

[underbear1]

Bush/Cheney are just born diplomats. They will bring down a planetwide war on us. They are already eyeing Iran, who's making Alliances with Syria. North Korea is a huge guess what will happen there, and which side China would take. Israel is in Iran's sites, and Iran will protect Iraq Shittes, Egypt, and Saudis will protect Iraq Sunnis. Now add Pakistan being another hot spot........gosh I feel safer tonight , don't you?

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: underbear1 Bush/Cheney are just born diplomats.

Huh? Maybe Cheney, but Bush is far too inarticulate to EVER be a diplomat. Google "Bushisms" and you'll see page after page of stupid things this guy has said.

...gosh I feel safer tonight , don't you?

I would feel pretty safe if I was Osama Bin Laden. He seems to be in no danger at all lately. :rolleyes:

[Clarence]

What d'yall think aout the CIA launching this attack? Is this in the CIA job description?