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| moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184 | Abramoff to plead guilty to fraud, other charges article Quote:
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| 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,437 | Do you think some politicians in Washington DC are feeling a little nervous just now? Heehee! "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams |
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| moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184 | i'm certain they're scared. this guy had financial relationships with at least a dozen to thirty members of government (i forget what i just heard on headline news)... and given this guy's affiliations, i'd bet that the overwhelming majority of his buddies are republicans. i hope this lands some of the corrupt bastards in government a cushy bed in prison. |
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| Skeptical Patriot Posts: 7,746 | Personally, I don't think it will be anywhere NEAR the scandal it looks like it could be. There are just too many connected people to possibly go down all at once. Now, what will probably happen to members of these politicians' STAFFS, I shudder to think of it. Not a day goes by that I don't see something that reinforces my belief that people are idiots. |
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| BANNED Posts: 2,630 | Jack Abramoff is a huge sissy that's not going down alone, he is singing like a Diva. Believe me he will wreck over 20 Congresspeople's careers, they may not get indicted, but they won't be re-elected either. Howard Dean start making the ads and brochures of all the candidates we'll beat in 2006 with Abramoff standing right next to them. Delay is TOAST and so is Ralph Reed's bid for Georgia governor.Abramoff will be the gift that just keeps on giving. |
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| BANNED Posts: 2,630 | They don't need Abramoff anymore I'm sure the authorities already have all of his signed statements of confessions, whether Jack is alive or dead, this investigation has moved beyond him now. Jack might want to talk to Martha Stewart about surviving the rigors of Camp Cupcake, because I doubt if he's rolled over enough to reduce his sentence from 30 years to 10 years, it's going to be at a rough federal prison. Jack learn to crochet fabulous ponchos, it'll make the 10 years go faster. |
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| Anarcho-capitalist Posts: 1,972 | Thank you for posting this, Bishop. I remember when they intimidated the Indian casinos enough to cough up taxes here in CA. Schwartzenneger was the figurehead for the push here ... Freedom - are you man enough to handle it? If so, join us in New Hampshire! The Free State Project ("Liberty in our lifetime!") www.freestateproject.com |
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| Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873 | The partisan hacks on both Fox and CNN are spinning as we speak to control damage to their own. They both know the parties are equally corrupt and are plugging the holes in the dam with every appedage they can muster.... NOW is the time for pressure about accountability to your local reps people, WARM UP THOSE KEYBOARDS!! ![]() Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready |
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| Skeptical believer Location: da UP, Michigan Posts: 279 | Since when does a scandal of this nature ever have that serious of repercussions? Sure, a few people may get burned, but the ones who step up to fill in the ranks will be just as corrupt, only a bit more careful in their dealings. Still, I would get a certain satisfaction in watching at least a few of those giants fall... nm420 "In this age, the mere example of nonconformity, the mere refusal to bend the knee to custom, is itself a service. --John Stuart Mill (1806-1873) |
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| Principled Observer Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 13,873 | This should be "THE" excuse for an onslaught of investigative independent reporters and journalists to investigate the whole system, and all its players. Our goals now should be locating and tracking any and all corruption, and rooting it out with extreme prejudice, regardless of party jacket or political or corporate affiliations. It would help if all people who read this, write in to their reps and demand action like this, and I am. Petition of Redress of Grievances: http://www.givemeliberty.org/default.htm Canadian Lawsuit Against Their National Banks: http://www.freewebs.com/classaction/ Osborn F. Enready |
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| moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184 | good thinking osborn.... i think i'll do the same myself. i've looked around, but right now i can't see if this guy had any ties to democrats - it seems like all of his corrupt tentacles touched other corrupt republicans. regardless, i hope to see each and every lawmaker exposed if they did have illegal/corrupt dealings with him. this bit of news is probably pretty good for eliminating GOP control over congress. it's also good fodder for 3rd parties should they successfully use it alongside a solid campaign platform (and solid candidates).. |
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| Redskins Rule Location: South-Western Virginia Posts: 2,451 | I don't care if they are Republicans or Democrats or Green Party. If they took pay-offs or golf vacations or whatever, I want them gone. Corruption does not respect party lines. Alot of people, on both sides of the asile, have sold their souls to the Gods of the Re-Election War Chest (or Election War Chest). It has to be stopped. I think you will find that Big Money prefers conservative chests, but where they think it can help, they hedge their bets. And they expect something for their money. The burden of proof required in a court of law is high, as it should be, but the burden of proof in the court of public opinion is another matter, and even where the court room standard can not be met, I hope people have the good sense to realize that that does not mean someone is innocent. All I see when I look down, something jumpin' on the ground, Scratchin' dirt, cluckin' in the barnyard - Tell me, could that be you? John Kay |
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| Hot Lava Posts: 1,302 | Quote:
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 9,491 | Quote:
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Read a bit more. You might not get caught up by your "dogmatic ignorance" as often. Rick "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis | ||
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![]() 57 Dead LEO's in 08 Location: Washington, WV Posts: 1,757 | Not Everyone's Dropping Abramoff's Money http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/st...010508351.html Quote:
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