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Old Jan 11, 2006, 09:16 pm   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Americans have always mistreated prisoners, even captured British soldiers were beaten and murdered by Americans in the war of 1812 and the American revolution. The terrorists are only treating captives the way Americans have always treated them. The only way to stop this brutality is for the UN, Chinese or Iranians to invade America and give the territory to the Natives, Mexicans, Canadians and British so the Americans would be minorities in separate countries. This would prevent them torturing people as they would be frightened to rebel without numerical superiority. In other words no more American nation, less brutality.
While I know that some American military prisons have been pretty lousy places to be; Andersonville comes immediately to mind, but that was Americans mistreating Americans.

We have not, however beheaded innocent civilians. Never did that; not even once.

Furthermore our WWII prisons were wonderful places to stay. The prisoners weren't forced to work, but some volunteered to do so. The food was good and there was enough of it. The only prisoners who escaped from our prisons in WWII hid in American cities. One German went to Chicago. A few years ago he was caught,but nothing was done to him.

We did not starve prisoners anything like the Japanese did in WWII, or the Koreans, or the North Vietnames.

Just sit down and consider which nation you'd like best to be imprisoned by......You certainly don't want to be kept in a terrorists prison in Iraq....or a Turkish prison, or a Russian one for that matter. You'd eschew being held in a Japanes prison in WWII, or a German one either; in some of those folks were murdered in mass.

American Indians were in almost constant warfare prior to Whites arrival in the Americas. Many Indians in Mexico were tyrants, which is why their societies collapsed.

Have you seen how the Japanese treated the Chinese during WWII?

You are dreaming Polish/English.
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Old Jan 19, 2006, 05:15 pm   #22 (permalink) (top)
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What is tolerable by way of prisoner treatment develops over time. Back when the Crusades atrocities were permissible, in WW1 they developed the Red Cross and humane treatment, now we've got universal human rights, cultural sensitivity and even sensibility over the differently-abled. One would need to compare contemporary treatment of prisoners by similarly situateds to discern how far beyond the pale the US handling of terrorist suspects goes.

I think use of torture has been excessive and the sexual humiliation of captives wrongful. I also think other western governments wouldn't handle them that way, but maybe some would if they had suffered a 911-like attack.


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