Iraqis want us out, says US general

[RickSp]

Another perspective - from an Iraqi point of view.

Violence Defies Reason for Many in Iraq

"There is no security. You don't feel safe even in your own home. You go to bed terrified and you wake up terrified," she said. Asked what would make her feel better, al-Azami said: "We should get rid of the Americans and of the criminal terrorists they have brought us."

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: RickSp Another perspective - from an Iraqi point of view. Violence Defies Reason for Many in Iraq

Asked what would make her feel better, al-Azami said: "We should get rid of the Americans and of the criminal terrorists they have brought us."

Even if we aren't responsible for these "criminal terrorists" (insurgents?), as long as enough Iraqis THINK we are, we have already lost. Not surprising though. Why should THIS be the first thing that's gone right in this whole mess?

[RickSp]

Quote by: Scribbler1 Even if we aren't responsible for these "criminal terrorists" (insurgents?), as long as enough Iraqis THINK we are, we have already lost. Not surprising though. Why should THIS be the first thing that's gone right in this whole mess?

Others have suggested that the Iraqi view is if indeed the US is most powerful country in the world why would they take over a country and then allow it sink into to chaos and bloodshed?

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: RickSp Others have suggested that the Iraqi view is if indeed the US is most powerful country in the world why would they take over a country and then allow it sink into to chaos and bloodshed?

For our own benefit, no matter how you present it.

I've said this many times before but it bears repeating. I don't recall a war ever being entered into by ANY country for multiple reasons. It is pretty obvious that they KNEW the plan might blow up in their faces so they had a contingency plan to use the "save the Iraqis from Saddam" excuse to fall back on. So NOW the Bush administration is constantly bleating about the self-governance of the Iraqis. They don't even mention Saddam all that much anymore. He's out of the picture so the happy Iraqis ought to be running a nice stable country by now.

This was NOT the reason we went to war. It was WMD and the threat Iraq posed to the US!! If everything is as it appears then this is the most outrageous and expensive attempt at face saving the world has ever seen!

The other possibility is simply that we invaded Iraq to secure a reliable oil supply. This would give Bush the appearance to the rest of the world as the reincarnation of Atilla the Hun, a despot who invades and takes from smaller countries whatever he wants.

The right wing can't use WMD anymore to defend Bush and NO ONE will admit to invading Iraq for oil so that just leaves those poor Iraqis whose country we needed to invade and decimate in order to give them a free society.

[Samildanach]

They are just delaying so they can suck the oil reserves dry with their new darpa created super suction pump. They probably only need one more year. Then you will see, someone will go to do an assessment of the oil reserves and they will be surprisingly close to empty.

[rmnunez]

In the current Newsweek they go over this Iraqi desire to see the US forces leave. US aid disbursed and spent in Iraq went from $300 million by June 2004 to $12.1 billion by now, Iraq's GDP grew from $20.5 billion prewar to $29.3 billion now, electric power generation fell from almost 4 thousand megawats prewar to 3,742 megawats now, auto registration more than doubled from 1.5 million prewar to 3.1 now, the inflation rate dropped from 36% in 2003 to 20% now and the number of telephones rose from 800 thousand prewar to 4.59 million now. These are signs (with the exception of the electricity) that things are improving, yet Iraqis want the foreigners gone. Newsweek says 80% of Iraqis want US forces gone right away, 65% of them strongly or somewhat oppose Coalition presence and 59% figure these forces have done a very bad job. I'm not sure how the improvements and Coalitioneer job performance relate, but I suspect it is not as direct as many think. Just because more Iraqis have cars or phones, the inflation rate is down or more aid delivered -doesn't mean there would be a more favourable regard for foreign troops. I suspect the foreign military presence in Iraq is not readily associated with improvements there by the average Iraqi.