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Old Dec 26, 2005, 04:20 am   #21 (permalink) (top)
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Yes Abdullah, why do Muslims and others hate so much as to kill so brutally with wood choppers and beheadings. Did Saddam represent any section of the Muslim community?
killing brutally is bad . But killing en masse - using N-bomb , staging war in the name of democracy and killing thousands etc all OK !!!
killing = killing. You can't give a different conclusion.
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Old Dec 26, 2005, 10:51 am   #22 (permalink) (top)
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killing brutally is bad . But killing en masse - using N-bomb , staging war in the name of democracy and killing thousands etc all OK !!!
killing = killing. You can't give a different conclusion.
"The death of one man is a tragedy - the death of a million is a statistic." - J. Stalin
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Old Dec 26, 2005, 08:59 pm   #23 (permalink) (top)
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This is paranoia beyond belief....and yet another dubious 'security' measure on dodgy legal grounds...
There are few places where I agree with this administration's approach to "terrorism," and I think they've done damn near everything wrong. But if monitoring a few mosques for radiation helps I only have two problems with it...

A. Monitor churches, synagogues, temples too. Monitor any place where someone might hide such things, but do it as discreetly and unintrusively as possible.

B. If radiation is detected, don't go in with guns ablazing or an attitude. It may have nothing to do with anyone there. Hell, someone might have broke in during the middle of the night and left it there, hidden.

Anyone seeking to commit such crimes would probably be less likely to choose a mosque. They would be more likely to go to a church or temple that many wouldn't consider. You hide things where people won't look, not where they probably will. In a similar fashion a terrorist probably would be less likely to hide within the anti-war protest than they would a pro-war rally.

It's simple logic.

There are far wprse things to concern ourselves with here than random radiation checks. It doesn't even come close to live wires attached to genitals, tapping citizens without even bothering to do the standard FISA after the fact...

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Old Dec 28, 2005, 01:22 am   #24 (permalink) (top)
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This is the Orwellian future, what did you expect?
Orwell's book didn't actually happen, the holocaust did. This time it's just against Muslims (so far) instead of Jews.


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Old Dec 28, 2005, 01:40 pm   #25 (permalink) (top)
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Orwell's book didn't actually happen, the holocaust did. This time it's just against Muslims (so far) instead of Jews.
Huh what are you talking about? Did Jews flew two airplanes in skyscrapers or did they blew themselves up in the middle of civilian population? And I didn't see any Muslim that was sent to concentration camp just because he Muslim. The thing that happens now to Muslims is not even close what happened to Jews during WW2 and cannot be compared.
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Old Dec 29, 2005, 04:03 pm   #26 (permalink) (top)
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Orwell's book didn't actually happen, the holocaust did. This time it's just against Muslims (so far) instead of Jews.

Correction-

Orwell's book didn't happen... yet. I think we may be headed down that path, just as we may be headed towards a "holocaust" with Muslims as the main target. In that regard we are more like the pre-WWII era than any supposed repeat of history. There was plenty of horrific persecution previous to WWII worldwide without any possible oven... etc. connection. Of course what we know and what is actually happening may be quite different.
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Old Dec 29, 2005, 04:06 pm   #27 (permalink) (top)
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killing brutally is bad . But killing en masse - using N-bomb , staging war in the name of democracy and killing thousands etc all OK !!!
killing = killing. You can't give a different conclusion.

How many of Saddams mass graves did we find and still finding.
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Old Dec 29, 2005, 04:46 pm   #28 (permalink) (top)
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How many of Saddams mass graves did we find and still finding.
All people who were killed pre-1990 When Saddam was buddies with the US eh?


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Old Dec 29, 2005, 05:30 pm   #29 (permalink) (top)
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killing brutally is bad . But killing en masse - using N-bomb , staging war in the name of democracy and killing thousands etc all OK !!!
killing = killing. You can't give a different conclusion.
Hum, Zealot's understanding of God must come from the old testament, not the new one.


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Old Jan 2, 2006, 06:46 am   #30 (permalink) (top)
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How many of Saddams mass graves did we find and still finding.

:rolleyes: I find our "outrage" pretty damn selective. After the Khmer Rouge, a group that damn near made Saddam look saintly, we did little. In fact, we pushed for them to gain more power. We ignore... scratch that... support leaders who boil their victims alive. In fact we did business with and supported Saddam himself while he was doing much of this, and many of the political operatives and hacks who are so "outraged" now... said squat then.

I will find sincerity when there is at least equal "outrage" at those who commit far worse atrocities and those who claim to be so offended aren't "outraged" only when it's politically convenient to be so. Otherwise such "outrage" is most likely BS.
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Old Jan 8, 2006, 10:36 am   #31 (permalink) (top)
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The Americans have gone too far. What sort of idiot thinks that Muslims will hide nuclear or chemical weapons in their houses and Mosques. Not all Muslims support terrorist groups and they certainly dont hide weapons of mass destruction under their floor boards or in their garden sheds.
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