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tman_ndsu08 · Dec 19, 2005, 05:53 pm

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And what makes you think SUVs are necessarily safer?

Lets see, do I want to be in a crash with a car that weighs 1000 pounds or 6000 pounds? Hmm...

bishop · Dec 19, 2005, 05:56 pm

i secretly love it when i see gas prices going up - because i know there are lots of greedy little piggies who drive unnecessary SUV's.. and since my car gets 30/40 mpg city/highway, and since i take public trans to work, high gas prices don't really affect me much at all.. *that's the price of freedom*..

really, though, the thing that i find despicable about this is that the anwr bill already failed but these corrupt "republicans" are still playing games to get it slipped into a bill that will undoubtedly be ratified by congress. all this for something that will provide a 1-3 year oil supply.. wh00p!!! now that's definitely something to get excited about.. reducing our dependence of foreign oil my ass.

pubmanager · Dec 19, 2005, 06:14 pm

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who cares about anwr? screw the stupid animals, if there in the way of my oil drill through them!
and while your at it kill me some cows im hungery

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I drive 2 SUVs, and will drive them until my freedom is stripped from my cold dead fingers. I will not lower the safety of my family in a tiny tin car for the likes of tree huggers.

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For every one of you who trys to conserve gas, I'm going to waste that amount plus 30%.

Why?

Because I can afford it and I don't really give a crap.

3 more reasons for the world to hate Americans

Milton Bradley · Dec 19, 2005, 08:44 pm

The saddest, and funniest thing aout this whole discussion has passed you all by.

Where does the oil piped down the Alaska Pipeline end up?

What makes you think this resource will be utilized any better than the existing resource that comes down the pipeline?

Roberto · Dec 19, 2005, 09:12 pm

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For every one of you who trys to conserve gas, I'm going to waste that amount plus 30%.

Why?

Because I can afford it and I don't really give a crap.

That attitude is precisely what is wrong with so many Americans.

Spence · Dec 19, 2005, 10:07 pm

his money, let him do what he wants with it

the only reason i drive a small car is becausei dont have the money for a suv. being 17 it happens.

and i dont care what some jap over in jap land thinks about me, there just jelous (sp?) of how much we kik-butt

Roberto · Dec 19, 2005, 10:10 pm

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his money, let him do what he wants with it

the only reason i drive a small car is becausei dont have the money for a suv. being 17 it happens.

and i dont care what some jap over in jap land thinks about me, there just jelous (sp?) of how much we kik-butt

Sadly too many Americans have the mentality of a 17 year old...

shield772 · Dec 19, 2005, 10:24 pm

And as far as drilling in ANWR goes, it is our land, foreign nations have no say in the matter, the joy of America, we get to do what we want when we want and there is nothing y'all can do about it and it pisses ya off. We do not subscribe to the belief in global communities and governments.

tman_ndsu08 · Dec 19, 2005, 10:27 pm

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3 more reasons for the world to hate Americans

Jealously often does turn to rage.

tman_ndsu08 · Dec 19, 2005, 10:28 pm

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The saddest, and funniest thing aout this whole discussion has passed you all by.

Where does the oil piped down the Alaska Pipeline end up?

Valdez Alaska where it's then take by ship to the lower 48.

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What makes you think this resource will be utilized any better than the existing resource that comes down the pipeline?

There will be more of it. That's the point.

shield772 · Dec 19, 2005, 10:35 pm

I have been watching coverage on C-Span and did I miss any of the elected Representatives from Alaska complaining about this?

pubmanager · Dec 19, 2005, 11:01 pm

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Jealously often does turn to rage.

Oh yeah, that's it, I'm insane with jealousy,

I lay awake at night thinking; if only I had no conscience, I could be just like you :rolleyes:

Capitalist Pig · Dec 19, 2005, 11:26 pm

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and i dont care what some jap over in jap land thinks about me, there just jelous (sp?) of how much we kik-butt

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bishop · Dec 20, 2005, 12:12 am

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I have been watching coverage on C-Span and did I miss any of the elected Representatives from Alaska complaining about this?

why would they? this is a huge pork project for them.

shield772 · Dec 20, 2005, 12:13 am

Then why does anyone else care.

pubmanager · Dec 20, 2005, 12:40 am

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Then why does anyone else care.

Because some of us believe that putting the interests of the planet, other people and future generations ahead of our own selfish desires is what makes us civilised, and a step up from the animals we share this planet with

shield772 · Dec 20, 2005, 12:43 am

I understand your concern for the planet but this won't hurt any planet but our part and I don't see how this concerns Europe.

tman_ndsu08 · Dec 20, 2005, 12:50 am

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Because some of us believe that putting the interests of the planet, other people and future generations ahead of our own selfish desires is what makes us civilised, and a step up from the animals we share this planet with

We are thinking of our children.

Protostar · Dec 20, 2005, 02:35 am

I really donot care one way or the other. I donot really see how this is going to reduce our dependence on foreign oil (won't it be a couple of years, before this oil starts affecting prices?). The problem is not that there isn't enough crude oil. The problem is that there isn't enough refined oil, which comes from there not being enough refineries. Refineries are extremely expensive to build (they cost upwards of a billion dollars, if I remember correctly).

As for more fuel efficient SUVs, I'm all for this. I don't like cars, as I like being high off the ground and most cars donot come with AWD, which is something I like to have (just in case).

Roberto · Dec 20, 2005, 05:25 am

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And as far as drilling in ANWR goes, it is our land, foreign nations have no say in the matter...

That's the problem, the profit goes to the Americans, the externalities to the whole world.

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Dec 19, 2005, 05:56 pm	#22 (permalink) (top)
bishop moderat-e/o-r Location: boston Posts: 11,184	i secretly love it when i see gas prices going up - because i know there are lots of greedy little piggies who drive unnecessary SUV's.. and since my car gets 30/40 mpg city/highway, and since i take public trans to work, high gas prices don't really affect me much at all.. that's the price of freedom.. really, though, the thing that i find despicable about this is that the anwr bill already failed but these corrupt "republicans" are still playing games to get it slipped into a bill that will undoubtedly be ratified by congress. all this for something that will provide a 1-3 year oil supply.. wh00p!!! now that's definitely something to get excited about.. reducing our dependence of foreign oil my ass. hope for america... http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

Dec 19, 2005, 10:07 pm	#26 (permalink) (top)
Spence Young and restless Location: Cleveland Posts: 25	his money, let him do what he wants with it the only reason i drive a small car is becausei dont have the money for a suv. being 17 it happens. and i dont care what some jap over in jap land thinks about me, there just jelous (sp?) of how much we kik-butt Counting bodies like sheep to the rythm of the war drums... Prying open my third eye.. I will not be a slave to a god that doesnt excist. I love my musics

Dec 19, 2005, 10:24 pm	#28 (permalink) (top)
shield772 110 Dead LEO's in 08 Location: Washington, WV Posts: 1,757	And as far as drilling in ANWR goes, it is our land, foreign nations have no say in the matter, the joy of America, we get to do what we want when we want and there is nothing y'all can do about it and it pisses ya off. We do not subscribe to the belief in global communities and governments. Republican Liberty Caucus Moderate Republican Officer Down Memorial Page

Dec 19, 2005, 10:35 pm	#31 (permalink) (top)
shield772 110 Dead LEO's in 08 Location: Washington, WV Posts: 1,757	I have been watching coverage on C-Span and did I miss any of the elected Representatives from Alaska complaining about this? Republican Liberty Caucus Moderate Republican Officer Down Memorial Page

Dec 19, 2005, 08:44 pm	#24 (permalink) (top)
Milton Bradley BANNED Location: Ohio Province, Rep. of Comerica Posts: 7,320	The saddest, and funniest thing aout this whole discussion has passed you all by. Where does the oil piped down the Alaska Pipeline end up? What makes you think this resource will be utilized any better than the existing resource that comes down the pipeline?

Dec 20, 2005, 12:13 am	#35 (permalink) (top)
shield772 110 Dead LEO's in 08 Location: Washington, WV Posts: 1,757	Then why does anyone else care. Republican Liberty Caucus Moderate Republican Officer Down Memorial Page

Dec 20, 2005, 12:43 am	#37 (permalink) (top)
shield772 110 Dead LEO's in 08 Location: Washington, WV Posts: 1,757	I understand your concern for the planet but this won't hurt any planet but our part and I don't see how this concerns Europe. Republican Liberty Caucus Moderate Republican Officer Down Memorial Page

Dec 20, 2005, 02:35 am	#39 (permalink) (top)
Protostar Hardcore Capitalist Location: North Carolina Posts: 759	I really donot care one way or the other. I donot really see how this is going to reduce our dependence on foreign oil (won't it be a couple of years, before this oil starts affecting prices?). The problem is not that there isn't enough crude oil. The problem is that there isn't enough refined oil, which comes from there not being enough refineries. Refineries are extremely expensive to build (they cost upwards of a billion dollars, if I remember correctly). As for more fuel efficient SUVs, I'm all for this. I don't like cars, as I like being high off the ground and most cars donot come with AWD, which is something I like to have (just in case). "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." . . . Susan B. Anthony