Little Consensus on Immigration Policy

[RickSp]

Quote by: shield772 well thats when ins comes in, and planes can get over the wall and we can have checkpoint openings

Exactly what we need. Just like the WWII movies with the Gestapo officers snarling "Your papers please...."

Not my image of America.

[shield772]

Well we have to do something, and for who guards it I say the military should take over that job.

[Osborn F Enready]

All illegals found, should be expelled. All borders should be sealed except for ports of entry, that can be easily monitored on both sides. We should have open borders in the sense that we do not harbor bad intent toward legal visitors and future citizens, but we must have secure borders with controllable points of entry and exit.

[rmnunez]

The recent interest in immigration by the US government is a novelty, traditionally the issue gets attention during elections years.

[rmnunez]

I think the idea of a wall is just to keep the Mexicans out, they don't see the Canadians as a problem and share no other border. The Canadians have better control over their own immigrants and offer an attractive alternative, but the hispanics from Mexico and points south are overwhelming so this idea of a wall sounds atractive, it would solve a problem seen as in need of attention.

Immigration as a problem has to do with the economy. When the economy grows immigrants are not as much of a problem since there are plenty of jobs, when the economy stagnates United Statians begin to wonder whether it makes sense to import this labour. Undocumented immigrants take menial jobs which proliferate when the economy grows. Documented immigrants are admitted to residen in the US by the most politically correct and proportionate ethno-religio-culturo-socio-economic and other profiles. Non-imigrant admissions are basically in reciprocal terms, though the US restricts and controls visits a bit more than most of the governments whose citizens visit them.

If the idea of sealing the border with Mexico has anything to do with curtailing the hispanization of the US its too late. Hispanics already are the largest ethno/cultural group in the US and their demographic just continues to grow.

[shield772]

Quote by: rmnunez The recent interest in immigration by the US government is a novelty, traditionally the issue gets attention during elections years.

We are moving into an election year, for Congress.

[brien]

Quote by: pubmanager I think we can all see how it is possible to check who's comming in, what I'm asking is how you make sure they leave.

I believe most tourists who enter Amercia do so on a visa. This visa can be enetered into a computer database and it can be recorded when the visa will expire. Any visitor that doesn't leave the country when the visa expired would be red flagged as overstaying their visa by the computer. Their identity could then be transferred to a "violation" list and the State Department could then issue a notice that this individual was in violation of the terms of their visa.

Then let the proper enforcement agencies take it from there.

[rmnunez]

Tourists enter the US on a "nonimmigrant visa" with their visit limited to the period until their return flight schedulled departure. Tourists provide evidence of where they will be staying and how they will support themselves, all of this is done before the visa gets issued. Tourists can extend their stay by means of an application with the immigration authorities. Some tourists likely do decide to remain in the US and this involves applying for residence and meeting the criteria established by the US. Those who simply don't leave and never comply with the immigration authority's regulations become excludable aliens subject to deportation after a summary hearing, which may result in their absence.