Troops Begin Combat Operations in New Orleans

[gr8fuldaniel]

Army Times By Joseph R. Chenelly Times staff writer NEW ORLEANS — Combat operations are underway on the streets “to take this city back” in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. “This place is going to look like Little Somalia,” Brig. Gen. Gary Jones, commander of the Louisiana National Guard’s Joint Task Force told Army Times Friday as hundreds of armed troops under his charge prepared to launch a massive citywide security mission from a staging area outside the Louisiana Superdome. “We’re going to go out and take this city back. This will be a combat operation to get this city under control.” Jones said the military first needs to establish security throughout the city. Military and police officials have said there are several large areas of the city are in a full state of anarchy. Dozens of military trucks and up-armored Humvees left the staging area just after 11 a.m. Friday, while hundreds more troops arrived at the same staging area in the city via Black Hawk and Chinook helicopters. “We’re here to do whatever they need us to do,” Sgt. 1st Class Ron Dixon, of the Oklahoma National Guard’s 1345th Transportation Company. “We packed to stay as long as it takes.” While some fight the insurgency in the city, other carry on with rescue and evacuation operations. Helicopters are still pulling hundreds of stranded people from rooftops of flooded homes. Read the rest....

Ahhh, the smell of fascism in the morning!

EDIT (due to management deleting my title): "While some fight the insurgency in the city" ???? Insurgents? They are calling the Hurricane Victims INSURGENTS????

[Nono]

Yep, them goddam Orlins jihadis. Jes hefta put some 'palm on 'em ah guess.

[jose]

law and order
more important
than food and water?

[tinybear]

There can be no food and water for everyone unless law and order is restored. Law and order; food and water; same thing.

[Nono]

Bullshit, tiny. You're dying of thirst and the only clean water available is bottled in a store whose owner is now a refugee far away. How do you survive, hmm?

[gr8fuldaniel]

Quote by: Nono Bullshit, tiny. You're dying of thirst and the only clean water available is bottled in a store whose owner is now a refugee far away. How do you survive, hmm?

No thanx our goddam president, you wont be getting that help from ANYBODY. Including Red Cross

[oranged]

These people don't need military men slaughtering innocent minorities. They need some one to calm them down. Some one to appeal to them and offer them help. Not just threaten them. "Give a starving man half of your food and he won't steal all of it," Lao Tsu.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Remember this is how they will treat YOU.

Like Shit!!

They will not allow anyone to help in time of disaster.

Fly your flags in distress
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We have Pirates in our White House

[njlemire87]

Quote by: Nono Bullshit, tiny. You're dying of thirst and the only clean water available is bottled in a store whose owner is now a refugee far away. How do you survive, hmm?

The people looting water and food is not the primary concern. The primary concern here is the rape, murder, and beatings. Violence on a horrific scale. You cannot drop in supplies if the people on the ground are shooting at you.

[Mr.Vicchio]

Oh man, a terrible tragedy hits, and all gr8 can do is find ways to make hay for his little "Bush is evil" fest.

Yes law and order first, what good is the Red Cross if the looters shoot them? What good is bringing water into an area if people are being shot?

I've watched the coverage, the looters in the crosshairs aren't the people grabbing water bottles and food, it's the ones grabbing TV's clothes, beer and non-essentials.

But hey, let not let reality interfere with your hate fest! Go ahead, Blame Bush for every last problem in NO. Of course, you know damned well he's not to blame, but it makes you feel good.

[Capitalist Pig]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Go ahead, Blame Bush for every last problem in NO. Of course, you know damned well he's not to blame, but it makes you feel good.

Right, public ownership has been a problem long before Bush ever even considered a career in politics. Of course he did cut funding for the levies two months ago, but that's irrelevant since government funding is the problem in the first place.

[Mr.Vicchio]

THey've known for YEARS if a large powerful hurricane hit the levee's were gonna be an issue. But people like Gr8 want to make you think the leevee's were fine till Bush became president.

[Sonart]

Quote by: Mr.Viichio They've known for YEARS if a large powerful hurricane hit the levee's were gonna be an issue. But people like Gr8 want to make you think the leevee's were fine till Bush became president.

You're missing the point, Mr.V. Yes, EVERYONE knew that a large hurricane hitting New Orleans was a recipe for major disaster. All of us here knew it.... knew from the moment Katrina turned NW from Florida towards Louisiana that this could be "the Big One". Years ago I mentioned New Orleans in a post about global warming, pointing out that rising sea levels and increasingly powerful heat/moisture fueled storms would be a disaster if they converged on New Orleans. EVERYONE knew what was coming.

So if we all knew the possible scale of the coming catastrophe, then what was Bush thinking about? Why wasn't FEMA mobilizing resources days before Katrina struck? Why wasn't the National Guard and military standing by the day after Katrina hit? If everyone knew what was coming, then what were they waiting for? How did this catch Bush in such deer-in-the-headlights surprise?

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[Mr.Vicchio]

20/20 hindsight is not wisdom Sonart.

How many hurricanes hit and the National Guard, FEMA and other groups are mobilized BEFORE the hit ready to go?

Yeah, that's what I thought. If they did that every time a Hurricane spun up the cost would be... very high, and 9 times out of 10.. the hits' don't justify gearing up. And if Bush did that every time you and others would complain he was wasting money for political gain.

[gr8fuldaniel]

And of course you will continue to blindly follow and worship this idiot, no matter how criminal he becomes. Along with all the other blind lemmings. Problem is, when you condone and support this regime, you are guilty of every crime they commit.

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio THey've known for YEARS if a large powerful hurricane hit the levee's were gonna be an issue.

The levee survived the hurricane just fine. It was the swelling of the river and the lake that broke the underfunded levee. Call it collateral damage of the Iraq war. Call it Lake George. A tribute to his incompetance and deriliction of duty. AWOL again. So how long will we have to wait for N' Orleans (and other target cities) to call our troops liberators, when they are really there to hijack the cities and roll out the carpet for the NWO landlord HALLIBURTON. Let me guess, the star of the show, Viceroy Bremer is waiting in the wings. They are already calling flood victims "insurgents".

Mr V:
Do you favor torture for the flood victims?

[Capitalist Pig]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio THey've known for YEARS if a large powerful hurricane hit the levee's were gonna be an issue. But people like Gr8 want to make you think the leevee's were fine till Bush became president.

The levies were a disaster because the Army Corps of Engineers were in charge of their construction and maintenance, rather than the private sector.

[mr.perfecto]

Yeah, the millions of liters of water that hit the city had nothing to do with it.

God helps if this forum is a valid representation of the American people. Such obvious double standards can only be defensive mechanisms. It is going to be nasty watching reality demolish the erroneous reasoning and childishness reinforcing them.

[njlemire87]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel And of course you will continue to blindly follow and worship this idiot, no matter how criminal he becomes. Along with all the other blind lemmings. Problem is, when you condone and support this regime, you are guilty of every crime they commit. The levee survived the hurricane just fine. It was the swelling of the river and the lake that broke the underfunded levee. Call it collateral damage of the Iraq war. Call it Lake George. A tribute to his incompetance and deriliction of duty. AWOL again. So how long will we have to wait for N' Orleans (and other target cities) to call our troops liberators, when they are really there to hijack the cities and roll out the carpet for the NWO landlord HALLIBURTON. Let me guess, the star of the show, Viceroy Bremer is waiting in the wings. They are already calling flood victims "insurgents". Mr V: Do you favor torture for the flood victims?

So you think that an event we have feared for years and the fact that concrete and clay levies could not stand up both to a catagory five hurricane as well as all of the water it dumped upriver is the fault of the current president? AHHHHH! If Clinton or gore had been in office or if Kerry had been in office, I wouldn't have blamed them. I think that the fact that the levies held up as well as they did is a testament to the Army Corp of Engineers.

[njlemire87]

Quote by: mr.perfecto Yeah, the millions of liters of water that hit the city had nothing to do with it. God helps if this forum is a valid representation of the American people. Such obvious double standards can only be defensive mechanisms. It is going to be nasty watching reality demolish the erroneous reasoning and childishness reinforcing them.

I think the kinds of things being said on this forum would make some people sick. A blame fest is not the way things change.

[Capitalist Pig]

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel The levee survived the hurricane just fine. It was the swelling of the river and the lake that broke the underfunded levee. Call it collateral damage of the Iraq war. Call it Lake George. A tribute to his incompetance and deriliction of duty. AWOL again.

I acknowledge that the levies were underfunded, I also acknowledge Bush cut the funding. But criticizing him and shifting the blame upon his shoulders alone, is grossly ignorant of the historical facts relevant to the break of the levies. It fails to acknowledge the failures of public infrastructure as a whole, by concentrating on just one factor. The problems go beyond the levies, of course, Bush's condemnation of price gouging will certaintly not help. And there will undoubtedly be more accusations of mixed signals from Capitol Hill as time pushes on, but let's stick with what we know for now.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel So how long will we have to wait for N' Orleans (and other target cities) to call our troops liberators, when they are really there to hijack the cities and roll out the carpet for the NWO landlord HALLIBURTON.

Check your fire, the American soldiers on the ground in our American city are not there to hijack it. The corrupt NOPD and other extensions of the government have already done that. The rescuers have good intentions, it's the people who are sending the signals that are the problem.

Quote by: gr8fuldaniel Mr V: Do you favor torture for the flood victims?

This is excessive, and I suggest you tone down your rhetoric.

Quote by: mr.perfecto Yeah, the millions of liters of water that hit the city had nothing to do with it.

I'm not sure if you intended this as a response to anyone in particular, but the levies were supposed to keep all that water from flooding the area out in the first place. So yes, discussion of who was in charge of the levies is entirely relevant to our understanding so that we may prevent future disasters.