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| former overlord Location: New York Posts: 2,383 | IRA vows to end armed campaign http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/eu...ent/index.html Quote:
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![]() Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 5,709 | Yes, was glad about this. They really didn't have any other choice, in the end. The onus is now on those idiots in the UDA, UVF and other Loyalist groups to sort their lives out.... I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes. |
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| FARMHOUSE Location: Florida State University Posts: 33 | Glad to hear about this...thought it was interesting to see other groups response to the announcement-US and Other's Response. It seems like regardless of what the Republican movement does they will always be doubted. Get correct views of life, and learn to see the world in its true light. It will enable you to live pleasantly, to do good, and, when summoned away, to leave without regret. -Robert E. Lee |
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| fanatic and profound Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 335 | I can't argue that it's good for this war to be over. I just hope European countries can continue to get along smoothly now. "It is not power that corrupts but fear. Fear of losing power corrupts those who wield it and fear of the scourge of power corrupts those who are subject to it."- Aung San Suu Kyi |
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| Volcanic Erupter Posts: 9,491 | What I am trying to figure out is how long it will take for the Bush administration to try to take credit for the IRA's announcement and to claim that it is a result of our "liberation" of Iraq and Afghanistan. Rick "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis |
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| Stront vir breins Posts: 511 | First off, I don't believe a word of it. Just wondering will they give up their protection rackets, their drug dealing, the punishment beatings and shooting, the money laundering, the fuel laundering, the production and sale of counterfeit goods, the production and circulation of counterfeit currency? Scum and filth, thats what they are. McGuinness, Adams, O'Caobhlann etc etc The sooner they are banned and removed from politics the better it will be. As for the loyalist scumbags...don't go there...just let the filthy bastards kill each other in their little feud. "Life is like a box of choclates.......it makes you fat and somebody else has taken all the nice ones" Middle East.. "The vile leading the stupid to kill the decent in the name of the holy." |
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![]() Throbbing Member Location: Old Europe Posts: 6,443 | While I wouldn't adopt the over-the-top language of Trotsky's eminently partisan diatribe, I too am skeptical. We've heard a lot of mealy-mouthed bullshit over the years about decommissining and rendering weapons unusable, and none of it ever really happened. The McGuinness/Adams types may have acquired a taste for political office and power, but the tough guys behind them presumably still have the means of raising hell if they decide to. And, as Trots says, they continue to stand in the way of the rule of law in any meaningful sense. Like so many armed groups around the world who started out with a political agenda, they've descended into cheap mafioso banditry. They aren't going to give that up in a hurry. Meanwhile, Rick is right that this statement will be press-ganged into the Bushista media machine along with that spell of nice weather in Iowa. "I wish I was as cocksure of anything as Tom Macaulay is of everything." -- Viscount Melbourne |
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| Stront vir breins Posts: 511 | As Nono says....but I still stick to my approach on it. Having had to put up with them for over twenty years, and having had to listen to them pontificate and preach their holier than though moral BS...then witness how they "punish" people who don't fit their "morals" and standards. And this is just in the Republic, my time in the North was with both sides! "Life is like a box of choclates.......it makes you fat and somebody else has taken all the nice ones" Middle East.. "The vile leading the stupid to kill the decent in the name of the holy." |
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| Stront vir breins Posts: 511 | Reuters Article regarding British steps towards "normalisation Oh yes, lets make it easier for the little shites to run counterfeit goods and narcotics across the border! "Life is like a box of choclates.......it makes you fat and somebody else has taken all the nice ones" Middle East.. "The vile leading the stupid to kill the decent in the name of the holy." |
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| Molten Ash Posts: 77 | Quote:
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| Stront vir breins Posts: 511 | Ermmmmmm who is talking about NI??? I'm referring to the Republic....where these beautiful people are ruining my country....not NI or Great Britain but my country, the Republic of Ireland. And who's practicing inflammatroy rhetoric? Gerry Adams accusing my government of betraying the Irish people, terrorists using the name of the Irish defense forces (of which I was a member at one point) in official statements and claims of terrorist attacks etc etc etc. My prejudices are I don't like murdering gun-running drug dealing scumbags, the kind that operate under the banner of IRA/Sinn Fein and the miriad of loyalist scum-groups. "Life is like a box of choclates.......it makes you fat and somebody else has taken all the nice ones" Middle East.. "The vile leading the stupid to kill the decent in the name of the holy." |
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| Left Foot Location: Co.Dublin, Ireland Posts: 369 | Quote:
Spot on. There is one US politician who is always entitled to claim a large slice of the credit for the 'peace'. BILL CLINTON's input was immense. The most important was pre-Bill the UK always maintained that it was an internal matter for them alone. Not even the Irish government could have an input, so there would be no solution. Bill changed that. Most importantly he changed it without firing one bullet. His personal attributes combined with the high esteem the office of President of the United States was THEN held by the Irish, ensured the peace process was off and running. Bill's granting of the VISA of entry to Gerry Adams was a turning point. Remember the UK was adamantly against this. Nothing comical george or his administration has done since has contributed an iota to the peace today. Three cheers for Bill. He'll not be forgotten this side of the pond. One lesson maybe for other conflicts. Very very few wish to die. The Irish love life more than most. Many volunteers went out believing death was likely. The 'shoot to kill' and Gibraltar murders, just like the Brazilian in London, left no doubt of UK intentions. Also every dead volunteer meant ten new recruits. Bobby Sands and friends died for political status. Was it not the Irish Republican ARMY. If not, what were those mutinying against a 'rightful' King of England during the American War of Independence? Were they freedom fighters or terrorists. Remember those brother against brother stories. One had to be 'bad' misguided man. The lesson surely is that all killings, by the state or otherwise, are wrong. The last pope proclaimed the Iraq war illegal, so who's the terrorist or freedom fighter. History will judge . | |
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