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Old Jul 10, 2005, 12:49 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Man cuts feet off 'promiscuous' wife

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...525238,00.html

Man cuts feet off 'promiscuous' wife

Tracy McVeigh
Sunday July 10, 2005
The Observer

A Pakistani man and some of his relatives chopped off his wife's feet after accusing her of being promiscuous, police said yesterday.

The woman survived the gruesome attack, the latest in a wave of assaults that have raised international concern about the plight of women in rural Pakistan.

'It is a shameful act of cruelty against a woman,' said Talat Ali, a senior police official in Punjab.'

The 32-year-old woman told police her feet were chopped off on 24 June by her husband, her father-in-law, a brother-in-law and two others after they accused her of being 'of bad character', a euphemism for promiscuous.

Violence against women is common in rural Pakistan where tribal and feudal customs hold sway.

The latest incident occurred in central Punjab province where the 2002 gang-rape of a woman, Mukhtaran Mai, on the orders of a village council, triggered an international outcry.

Pakistan president Pervez Musharraf, who is trying to project his country as a moderate Muslim nation, has condemned violence against women.

The woman in the latest incident had separated from her husband but had gone to his family's house to see her daughter, police said.

Her father-in-law chained her up and that night he and the others took her to the edge of their village and cut off her feet.

Two days later her parents reported her missing and police raided the house, found her and took her to hospital, where she remains.

'There is no evidence that she was of bad character,' Ali said.

Now THIS is the rule of law (Sharia) that the "pure" Muslim wants- just like their buds the Taliban- and we are to "understand" and "negotiate" with these neanderthals? And what of the man that may have seduced her? Well he can just strap some bombs on, blow up some innocent civs and enjoy the virgins for ever in "heaven". It would be funny if it wasnt so sad and serious.


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Old Jul 10, 2005, 12:57 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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It makes no sense to generally insult an entire group of people based on the actions of a few, living under near stone-age conditions and beliefs.
Unless it's also OK, then, to presume that all Americans are baby killers every time one of our bullets kills a child?


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Old Jul 10, 2005, 01:03 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Well it is but one example and to name it a "few" I guess is relative- how many Muslims "vote" for Sharia law in Muslim dominated countries? It numbers in the millions I would say. But stonings, beheadings, limb mutations are common in many Muslim lands- these are specific Koranic remedies for "sins: committed in every day life. "new" Muslims want to turn their back on the Koran remedies for these "sins" but true believers will hold fast. And as we see with terrorist attacks that we are all facing (wait till the briefcase nukes hit) that a "few" can have a GREAT influence. How many were involved in the latest London bombing? A few.


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Old Jul 10, 2005, 01:08 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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And christians are all that different?
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Those who claim to read the Bible as the literal word of God must be asked if they support enforcing all the laws of the Old Testament. Leviticus 20:13 commands that male homosexuals be put to death. Deuteronomy 22 orders death by stoning for a man and woman who commit adultery. Leviticus 15:16-24 makes those who touch semen and menstrual blood ritually unclean. Moreover, prostitution is not condemned but taken for granted in Genesis 38:12-19 and Joshua 2:1-7. And polygamy and concubinage (an unmarried woman living with a man) are regularly practiced in the Old Testament. Therefore, a Christian who advocates a literal reading of scripture should: support capital punishment for male homosexual acts and also for adultery, require Old Testament purification rituals for those who touch semen or menstrual blood, and sanction prostitution, polygamy and concubines.


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Old Jul 10, 2005, 05:38 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I think if you take the trouble to look, you're bound to be able to find some examples of atrocities being committed by people of all faiths and religions (save perhaps for Buddhism, which, arguably, isn't a religion). But It really is outrageous when such acts are condoned or even sanctioned by the state. That's why I've always said that large portions of sharia law should be denounced and/or abolished and those Muslim states who do not do so are as guilty as the perpetrators of these atrocities.

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Old Jul 10, 2005, 11:11 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Another ridiculous post blaming a religious community worldwide based on the horrors committed by a relative few.

The sad irony is that the abuse of women is Pakistan is a serious problem but a post like this says more about your own biases than anything about the problem itself.

Not all that long ago some Hindu sects mandated the wife of a dead husband should also die on the funeral pyre. Should we write about that "zany Hindus" or perhaps "zany Catholics" because the church hierarchy turned a blind eye to child abuse for too long?

Broad slurs are a poor substitute for discussion.


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Old Jul 10, 2005, 11:17 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Committed by a few; but unfortunately condoned and/or sanctioned by many.
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Old Jul 10, 2005, 12:11 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Committed by a few; but unfortunately condoned and/or sanctioned by many.
Are you referring to Catholics, Hindus or Muslims? The statement applies well enough to each and to many other sects, regretably.


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Old Jul 10, 2005, 12:15 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Muslim states applying sharia law. That's what I had in mind.
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Old Jul 10, 2005, 02:18 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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In this case it wasn´t a muslim state appling any sharia law, it was a bitter husband and his family mutilateing his ex wife,¨

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Old Jul 10, 2005, 02:21 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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I was speaking generally about Muslim states applying sharia law and other Muslim states doing nothing to denounce this barbarism.

http://www.crisismagazine.com/april2005/rogers.htm

Does anyone still wish to say that such barbarism is practised by a minute minority of Muslims?

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Well it is but one example and to name it a "few" I guess is relative- how many Muslims "vote" for Sharia law in Muslim dominated countries? It numbers in the millions I would say. But stonings, beheadings, limb mutations are common in many Muslim lands- these are specific Koranic remedies for "sins: committed in every day life. "new" Muslims want to turn their back on the Koran remedies for these "sins" but true believers will hold fast. And as we see with terrorist attacks that we are all facing (wait till the briefcase nukes hit) that a "few" can have a GREAT influence. How many were involved in the latest London bombing? A few.
How many muslums do you know? I don't know many but I've never met any like that. There are just as many muslums as there are cristians, and there are just as many muslums who support terrorists as there are cristians who support the Bush adminastration, which is a terrorist group. I've known both religions to do horrible things, but I don't hate all members of either one.


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Does anyone still wish to say that such barbarism is practised by a minute minority of Muslims?[/quote]
yes i say that. muslims live in america, in the UK and hundreds of other countries your focusing on rural pakistan do you have any proof that these thing are done under sharia law anywhere'?







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