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tinybear · Jun 30, 2005, 03:23 am

Ex-Hostages: Iran's President Was Captor
Wednesday, June 29, 2005
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161163,00.html
SAVANNAH, Ga. — A quarter-century after they were taken captive in Iran, five former American hostages say they got an unexpected reminder of their 444-day ordeal in the bearded face of Iran's new president-elect.

Watching coverage of Iran's presidential election on television dredged up 25-year-old memories that prompted four of the former hostages to exchange e-mails. And those four realized they shared the same conclusion — the firm belief that President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (search) had been one of their Iranian captors.

"This is the guy. There's no question about it," said former hostage Chuck Scott, a retired Army colonel who lives in Jonesboro, Ga. "You could make him a blond and shave his whiskers, put him in a zoo suit and I'd still spot him."

Folks, do you believe that the identifications are accurate? Personally, I have my doubts. It's been a long time and, after all, don't these bearded Iranians all look the same to you after a while?

PatrickHenry · Jun 30, 2005, 03:29 am

He's probably the same one. Has he denied it? It's long past anyhow. Reagan gave 'em rockets to let the hostages go in the October Surprise...

jose · Jun 30, 2005, 03:59 am

This is depicted by his personal website Mardomyar (http://www.mardomyar.com), or the people's friend. His website says he joined the Revolutionary Guards voluntarily after helping to found the student union which took over the US embassy in 1979
http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%2...j%20Qidwai.htm
the new leader of iran is no friend of USA policy but then who is these days
tiny bear wrote ¨don't these bearded Iranians all look the same to you after a while? ¨ change bearded Iranians for Blacks or Chinese and think how that sounds

tinybear · Jun 30, 2005, 04:09 am

Sounds true. Caucasians always tell me that we Chinese all look alike. :)

PatrickHenry · Jun 30, 2005, 04:50 am

Quote:

Quote by: tinybear

Chinese all look alike

I am sure you are more beautiful than most Chinese girls, tinybear.

tinybear · Jun 30, 2005, 05:06 am

I think we had better get back on topic, Uncle Patrick. :)

**Pooeypants** · Jun 30, 2005, 05:39 am

Quote:

Quote by: PatrickHenry

I am sure you are more beautiful than most Chinese girls, tinybear.

*coughfatchancecough*

Anyway, I somehow doubt that even the Iranians would allow someone with a real dirty history to be elected as leader. Besides, if the President is who they claim to be, wouldn't the CIA have a large file on this fella already to confirm it?

lsbskins1 · Jun 30, 2005, 08:52 am

But in Iran, that would not be considered dirty history, it would be considered very noble and brave. The members of the revolutionary guard faced down America, who had sponsered a pretty nasty dictatorship and insisted that we turn that nasty dictator over to the Iranian people to be judged for the crimes that had been committed against the Iranian people. Agree with them or not, from the perspective of the Iranians, this is not something to be ashamed of, it is a point of honor.

**Matt W** · Jun 30, 2005, 08:57 am

Well, not only does he deny it, but political opponents of his who took part in it do too:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4636955.stm

So I guess that's another 'urban myth' down the drain....

tinybear · Jun 30, 2005, 02:17 pm

Yeah, I can see lsbskins1's point. Even if he were one of the kidnappers, so what? He'd be considered a hero by most Iranians, wouldn't he?

tinybear · Jul 1, 2005, 12:35 am

TEHRAN, Iran -
Iran's new president was a member of the hard-line Islamic student group that seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979, but he opposed the takeover — preferring instead to target the Soviet Embassy, friends and former hostage-takers said Thursday.

The former students who carried out the seizure and held the Americans for 444 days said Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had no role in taking the embassy or guarding the hostages.

In the turbulent early days of Iran's Islamic Revolution, Ahmadinejad was more concerned with putting down leftists and communists at universities than striking at Americans, they said. During the long standoff, he was writing and speaking against leftist students, they said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050701/...ZhBHNlYwM3MjE-

Jun 30, 2005, 03:23 am	#1 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,016	Ex-Hostages: Iran's President Was Captor Ex-Hostages: Iran's President Was Captor Wednesday, June 29, 2005 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161163,00.html SAVANNAH, Ga. — A quarter-century after they were taken captive in Iran, five former American hostages say they got an unexpected reminder of their 444-day ordeal in the bearded face of Iran's new president-elect. Watching coverage of Iran's presidential election on television dredged up 25-year-old memories that prompted four of the former hostages to exchange e-mails. And those four realized they shared the same conclusion — the firm belief that President-elect Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (search) had been one of their Iranian captors. "This is the guy. There's no question about it," said former hostage Chuck Scott, a retired Army colonel who lives in Jonesboro, Ga. "You could make him a blond and shave his whiskers, put him in a zoo suit and I'd still spot him." Folks, do you believe that the identifications are accurate? Personally, I have my doubts. It's been a long time and, after all, don't these bearded Iranians all look the same to you after a while?

Jun 30, 2005, 03:29 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
PatrickHenry 9/11: Inside Job Location: Hawai'i, Big Island Posts: 10,438	He's probably the same one. Has he denied it? It's long past anyhow. Reagan gave 'em rockets to let the hostages go in the October Surprise... "Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self-defense." -- John Adams

Jun 30, 2005, 08:52 am	#8 (permalink) (top)
lsbskins1 Redskins Rule Location: South-Western Virginia Posts: 2,453	But in Iran, that would not be considered dirty history, it would be considered very noble and brave. The members of the revolutionary guard faced down America, who had sponsered a pretty nasty dictatorship and insisted that we turn that nasty dictator over to the Iranian people to be judged for the crimes that had been committed against the Iranian people. Agree with them or not, from the perspective of the Iranians, this is not something to be ashamed of, it is a point of honor. All I see when I look down, something jumpin' on the ground, Scratchin' dirt, cluckin' in the barnyard - Tell me, could that be you? John Kay

Jun 30, 2005, 08:57 am	#9 (permalink) (top)
Matt W Moderator Location: Reading, UK. Posts: 6,351	Well, not only does he deny it, but political opponents of his who took part in it do too:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4636955.stm So I guess that's another 'urban myth' down the drain.... I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. -George Best, on being asked what he did with his footballing fortunes.

Jun 30, 2005, 03:59 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
jose Volcanic Erupter Location: España Posts: 2,571	This is depicted by his personal website Mardomyar (http://www.mardomyar.com), or the people's friend. His website says he joined the Revolutionary Guards voluntarily after helping to found the student union which took over the US embassy in 1979 http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%2...j%20Qidwai.htm the new leader of iran is no friend of USA policy but then who is these days tiny bear wrote ¨don't these bearded Iranians all look the same to you after a while? ¨ change bearded Iranians for Blacks or Chinese and think how that sounds

Jun 30, 2005, 04:09 am	#4 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,016	Sounds true. Caucasians always tell me that we Chinese all look alike. :)

Jun 30, 2005, 05:06 am	#6 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,016	I think we had better get back on topic, Uncle Patrick. :)

Jun 30, 2005, 02:17 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,016	Yeah, I can see lsbskins1's point. Even if he were one of the kidnappers, so what? He'd be considered a hero by most Iranians, wouldn't he?

Jul 1, 2005, 12:35 am	#11 (permalink) (top)
tinybear Volcanic Erupter Location: Hong Kong (for now) Posts: 7,016	TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's new president was a member of the hard-line Islamic student group that seized the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979, but he opposed the takeover — preferring instead to target the Soviet Embassy, friends and former hostage-takers said Thursday. The former students who carried out the seizure and held the Americans for 444 days said Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had no role in taking the embassy or guarding the hostages. In the turbulent early days of Iran's Islamic Revolution, Ahmadinejad was more concerned with putting down leftists and communists at universities than striking at Americans, they said. During the long standoff, he was writing and speaking against leftist students, they said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050701/...ZhBHNlYwM3MjE-