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SoylentGreen · Aug 21, 2008, 03:28 pm

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When a high school senior told her principal that students were taunting her for being a lesbian, he told her homosexuality is wrong, outed her to her parents and ordered her to stay away from children.

He suspended some of her friends who expressed their outrage by wearing gay pride T-shirts and buttons at Ponce de Leon High School, according to court records. And he asked dozens of students whether they were gay or associated with gay students.

The American Civil Liberties Union successfully sued the district on behalf of a girl who protested against Principal David Davis, and a federal judge reprimanded Davis for conducting a "witch hunt" against gays......And despite all that, many in this conservative Panhandle community still wonder what, exactly, Davis did wrong.

"We are a small, rural district in the Bible Belt with strong Christian beliefs and feel like homosexuality is wrong," said Steve Griffin, Holmes County's school superintendent, who keeps a Bible on his desk and framed Scriptures on his office walls....."I don't think we are that different from a lot of districts, at least in the Panhandle, that have beliefs that maybe are different from societal changes," Griffin said. The Panhandle is a region of northern Florida.

Gay rights activists said that's no excuse for what Davis did......"Davis embarked on what can only be characterised as a 'witch hunt' to identify students who were homosexual and their supporters, further adding fuel to the fire," US District Judge Richard Smoak recounted in his ruling........"I emphasize that Davis's personal and religious views about homosexuality are not issues in this case. Indeed, Davis's opinions and views are consistent with the beliefs of many in Holmes County, in Florida, and in the country," Smoak wrote in an opinion released last month. "Where Davis went wrong was when he endeavoured to silence the opinions of his dissenters."

So which do you think it is? Is it about "Davis's personal and religious views about homosexuality ", or is it about "when he endeavoured to silence the opinions of his dissenters."

??! · Aug 21, 2008, 03:36 pm

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So which do you think it is? Is it about "Davis's personal and religious views about homosexuality ", or is it about "when he endeavoured to silence the opinions of his dissenters."

I think it's both. His homosexual bigotry reflected into his opinions and actions against the student. I find it unsettling that a whole community can be so intolerant to other ideas. But hey, it's America.

prejudged_Fire · Aug 21, 2008, 04:11 pm

Link to the article?

Sockem · Aug 21, 2008, 04:26 pm

He has the right to believe as he pleases if he thinks homosexuality is wrong so be it but when one puts this into action only then is it wrong.

**Jack** · Aug 21, 2008, 04:28 pm

Source=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26316235

ShadowFox · Aug 21, 2008, 04:44 pm

And for those who just want to click a link: Outed gay student's case roils Fla. town - Life - MSNBC.com

Sad that such communities exist though.

thebuescherman · Aug 21, 2008, 05:45 pm

A pretty sad case. Maybe the ACLU isn't completely useless.

Hurt · Aug 21, 2008, 06:26 pm

Whoopee!

Gotta love the good ole US of A.

Matt · Aug 21, 2008, 07:15 pm

That's horrible. Some people can be so ignorant.

prejudged_Fire · Aug 21, 2008, 07:34 pm

Here's where my mouth dropped...

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"Davis embarked on what can only be characterized as a 'witch hunt' to identify students who were homosexual and their supporters, further adding fuel to the fire," U.S. District Judge Richard Smoak recounted in his ruling. "He went so far as to lift the shirts of female students to insure the letters 'GP' or the words 'Gay Pride' were not written on their bodies."

??! · Aug 21, 2008, 07:45 pm

Sexual harrasment anyone?

prejudged_Fire · Aug 21, 2008, 07:50 pm

It's Florida, I doubt anything will ever be done about it.

Aussie · Aug 21, 2008, 08:04 pm

Ah Christians, what a proud moment! This is exactly what Jesus wanted I'm sure.... "Nah he said unto his flock, gather all ye homos and cast them out"

Dan_77 · Aug 21, 2008, 08:05 pm

most shocking thing about this story... I wouldn't think members of Westboro Bible Baptist would be allowed to work in public schools...

??! · Aug 21, 2008, 09:12 pm

Ouch.

tfox_60 · Aug 21, 2008, 10:02 pm

This case is about freedom of expression. The girls right to wear her agenda attire to school. Although, Im sure she wins extra points for being a gay rights agenda.

SoylentGreen · Aug 21, 2008, 10:08 pm

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This case is about freedom of expression. The girls right to wear her agenda attire to school. Although, Im sure she wins extra points for being a gay rights agenda.

What does "to wear her agenda attire to school." mean?
What has this to do with freedom of expression, when it is about someone in authority abusing their power with bigotry?

ShadowFox · Aug 21, 2008, 10:22 pm

You know, i don't really know what they mean by gay agenda.

Come on tfox, what is this supposed "gay agenda"? What is it trying to accomplish? Aside from having equal rights as heterosexuals?

Aussie · Aug 21, 2008, 10:23 pm

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This case is about freedom of expression. The girls right to wear her agenda attire to school. Although, Im sure she wins extra points for being a gay rights agenda.

Are you just trying to insert you're own version? Or are you going to address the points?

prejudged_Fire · Aug 21, 2008, 11:07 pm

....Did anyone else notice the ad at the top of the page for "gay massage videos"? O.o

Aug 21, 2008, 04:11 pm	#3 (permalink)
prejudged_Fire Hmmmm....... Location: Maine Posts: 1,076	Link to the article? "It's not easy banging your head against some mad bugger's wall." -- Roger Waters (Pink Floyd, "Outside the Wall")

Aug 21, 2008, 04:28 pm	#5 (permalink)
Jack Inquisitor Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 17,895 Blog Entries: 70	Source=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26316235 The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Jeber's If we're all God's children, what's so special about Jesus?

Aug 21, 2008, 04:44 pm	#6 (permalink)
ShadowFox Seeking the Unknown Location: Southern California Posts: 2,029	And for those who just want to click a link: Outed gay student's case roils Fla. town - Life - MSNBC.com Sad that such communities exist though. Knowledge is power, use it well. Don't fear the unknown, seek to understand it

Aug 21, 2008, 05:45 pm	#7 (permalink)
thebuescherman Un-molten Ash Posts: 569	A pretty sad case. Maybe the ACLU isn't completely useless. I'm sorry, but I'd agree with you if you were right. www.martiniwarehouse.com

Aug 21, 2008, 07:15 pm	#9 (permalink)
Matt I'm not though Location: BC Canada Posts: 612	That's horrible. Some people can be so ignorant. Christians should be humane to animals because animals have souls and the Bible tells them to. Atheists should be humane to animals because they know animals only have one short life.

Aug 21, 2008, 04:26 pm	#4 (permalink)
Sockem Barrack Osama Location: Ohio Posts: 280	He has the right to believe as he pleases if he thinks homosexuality is wrong so be it but when one puts this into action only then is it wrong.

Aug 21, 2008, 06:26 pm	#8 (permalink)
Hurt le tired Posts: 687	Whoopee! Gotta love the good ole US of A.

Aug 21, 2008, 07:45 pm	#11 (permalink)
??! Selfish shellfish Location: Ohio... Posts: 217	Sexual harrasment anyone?

Aug 21, 2008, 07:50 pm	#12 (permalink)
prejudged_Fire Hmmmm....... Location: Maine Posts: 1,076	It's Florida, I doubt anything will ever be done about it. "It's not easy banging your head against some mad bugger's wall." -- Roger Waters (Pink Floyd, "Outside the Wall")

Aug 21, 2008, 08:04 pm	#13 (permalink)
Aussie Hot Lava Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 1,355	Ah Christians, what a proud moment! This is exactly what Jesus wanted I'm sure.... "Nah he said unto his flock, gather all ye homos and cast them out" I reject your reality and insert my own!

Aug 21, 2008, 08:05 pm	#14 (permalink)
Dan_77 Esquire Location: NY Posts: 3,663	most shocking thing about this story... I wouldn't think members of Westboro Bible Baptist would be allowed to work in public schools... "But it wasn't until he met his beautiful wife that he learned using logic and reason isn't enough. You have to be a dick to everyone who doesn't think like you." - South Park on Richard Dawkins

Aug 21, 2008, 09:12 pm	#15 (permalink)
??! Selfish shellfish Location: Ohio... Posts: 217	Ouch.

Aug 21, 2008, 10:02 pm	#16 (permalink)
tfox_60 BANNED Posts: 493	This case is about freedom of expression. The girls right to wear her agenda attire to school. Although, Im sure she wins extra points for being a gay rights agenda.

Aug 21, 2008, 10:22 pm	#18 (permalink)
ShadowFox Seeking the Unknown Location: Southern California Posts: 2,029	You know, i don't really know what they mean by gay agenda. Come on tfox, what is this supposed "gay agenda"? What is it trying to accomplish? Aside from having equal rights as heterosexuals? Knowledge is power, use it well. Don't fear the unknown, seek to understand it

Aug 21, 2008, 11:07 pm	#20 (permalink)
prejudged_Fire Hmmmm....... Location: Maine Posts: 1,076	....Did anyone else notice the ad at the top of the page for "gay massage videos"? O.o "It's not easy banging your head against some mad bugger's wall." -- Roger Waters (Pink Floyd, "Outside the Wall")