Austrian 'hid daughter in cellar'

[grandpa]

Quote by: JaneDoe321 In addition.... I am not a psychologist, BUT...

Well, you neend't be a psychologist to ponder these things. You're right that it could have an adverse affect psychologically. I suspect that government violence actually creates psychological violence among people. It might even shape people such as the man we're discussing.

Grandpa h.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: Anmon costs money bullet tie body to lead weight dump 20km off coast

Pppff, why bother with the moral questioning, I can spend a tiny fraction of taxpayer money that'd line some dudes pockets anyway to satisfy some bleeding hearts.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: BorisTheFerret Josef Fritzl is quite a sick man. I'd probably rate him an 8 out of 10, in terms of sickness.

8? with ten being a dude who eats his own soul? What kind of sick things does a man need to do?

[Oxymoronic]

Definitely one of the worst things I've ever heard of. I mean putting your daughter in a cage for years and fathering children with her? That's just disgusting.I think he should be killed I also think there's something very wrong with the guy and I don't think he realizes what he did was so horrible. At the very least before we kill him he needs to get some guilt becuse as of right now his mind is so messed up he thinks what he did is okay . I'd rather he first see proffesional help first because dying without feeling guilt is so much more blissful then with guilt.

[Anmon]

the best help he can get is a bullet through his head, let God sort him out.

[BorisTheFerret]

Quote by: Gods_Mercenary 8? with ten being a dude who eats his own soul? What kind of sick things does a man need to do?

Well Hitler would probably be a ten, along with Stalin, Vlad the Impaler, Pol Pot and Margaret Thatcher.

As for Fritzl, in his defence (and this really is his defence, apparently!) he didn't actually kill anyone. Nevertheless, I'd give him 5 out of 10 for the original kidnap and imprisonment of his daughter, plus a quarter-point for each child fathered, half a point for the baby he incinerated, and an extra point for the fact that it was all incest, combined with the lengths to which he went in order to perpetuate the crime.

All in all, a sick, evil man.

[Anmon]

Quote by: BorisTheFerret All in all, a sick, evil man.

not to mention twisted as well, in his photos he has a devil may care grin and a humorous glint in his eye, as if hes happy to be caught, that hes actually happy that everyone knows he put one over them, for such along time.

[BorisTheFerret]

Quote by: Anmon not to mention twisted as well, in his photos he has a devil may care grin and a humorous glint in his eye, as if hes happy to be caught, that hes actually happy that everyone knows he put one over them, for such along time.

Agreed. To be fair, the police should have known just from the looking at the guy that something was up. I mean, how evil does he look?
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Whooops, that's Mike Reid. Sorry. I'll try again:
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[Anmon]

hard to tell, he doesn't look evil at all to me, I only know hes evil from his actions and getting caught in the process.

[Oxymoronic]

Quote by: BorisTheFerret Well Hitler would probably be a ten, along with Stalin, Vlad the Impaler, Pol Pot and Margaret Thatcher. As for Fritzl, in his defence (and this really is his defence, apparently!) he didn't actually kill anyone. Nevertheless, I'd give him 5 out of 10 for the original kidnap and imprisonment of his daughter, plus a quarter-point for each child fathered, half a point for the baby he incinerated, and an extra point for the fact that it was all incest, combined with the lengths to which he went in order to perpetuate the crime. All in all, a sick, evil man.

Your scale is pretty weighted, let's say Pol Pot is a 10 then this guy gets and 8 that means there's only one number between killing hundreds of thousands and doing an incest thing(not that I'm sayin that's good or anything) but you should defintely consider re doing this scale of yours.

[Hurt]

Quote by: Oxymoronic Your scale is pretty weighted, let's say Pol Pot is a 10 then this guy gets and 8 that means there's only one number between killing hundreds of thousands and doing an incest thing(not that I'm sayin that's good or anything) but you should defintely consider re doing this scale of yours.

yeah..there seems to be quite a gap between 8 and 10 in terms of evilness..

[JaneDoe321]

Quote by: Anmon hahahahaha I'm sure they will miss him

This is the sort of attitude that hampers recovery. You have to admit that it's NOT as simple as "remove them from the BAD situation, place them in what appears from OUR perspective to be a GOOD situation and TADA, problem fixed!" and then go off to have a drink to celebrate your success in "CURING EVIL one crazy at a time...".

I wonder about the kids in Texas who were ripped from their families, too. It's just NOT that simple, and I rarely see that side of the issue addressed.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: BorisTheFerret Well Hitler would probably be a ten, along with Stalin, Vlad the Impaler, Pol Pot and Margaret Thatcher. As for Fritzl, in his defence (and this really is his defence, apparently!) he didn't actually kill anyone. Nevertheless, I'd give him 5 out of 10 for the original kidnap and imprisonment of his daughter, plus a quarter-point for each child fathered, half a point for the baby he incinerated, and an extra point for the fact that it was all incest, combined with the lengths to which he went in order to perpetuate the crime. All in all, a sick, evil man.

I don't think that the scale should be weighted in terms of moral reprehensibility, it's a sickness scale, not an evilness scale. By my money, a dictator who kills to shore up his own power based on his own paranoia isn't necessarily more sick than a guy who does twisted things like this.

[BorisTheFerret]

Quote by: Hurt yeah..there seems to be quite a gap between 8 and 10 in terms of evilness..

I agree. Think of it like the Richter Scale: an earthquake measuring 8.0 on the Richter Scale is exactly ten times more powerful than an earthquake measuring 7.0, and an earthquake measuring 9.0 is ten times as powerful again.

So in other words, Pol Pot constitutes a big enough earthquake to level any city, whereas the effects of a Fritzl can be negated if you use earthquake-resistant building techniques. I think.