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Chancellor · Mar 10, 2008, 04:38 pm

Governor apologizes after prostitution link - Politics - MSNBC.com

NEW YORK - Gov. Eliot Spitzer apologized to his family and the public on Monday, but did not not elaborate on a bombshell report that he has been involved in a prostitution ring.

"I have acted in a way that violates my obligations to my family ... my sense of right and wrong," he said at a news conference at his Manhattan office. "I must now dedicate some time to rededicate my trust to my family."

Spitzer's wife stood at his side, her hands behind her back and her eyes cast downward, as he made the statement.

(The bolding of text above is mine).

Here are possibly other details from another source: WBEN 930 : Spitzer Linked To Prostitution Ring (details in the links within the source).

I think he should be worried more about his restoring his family's trust in him than to his trust to his family.

Winter wind · Mar 11, 2008, 10:05 am

I had mixed feeling about him before. He was a great at cracking down on crime, but he was so heavy handed when he came to office and so self-righteous, that the irony of this made me laugh for hours. (not the happy kind)

grandpa · Mar 11, 2008, 12:09 pm

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I had mixed feeling about him before.
He was a great at cracking down on crime, but
he was so heavy handed when he came to office
and so self-righteous, that the irony of this made
me laugh for hours.

I share your sense of irony. I wish I could say I couldn't find a better example of hypocrisy, but they abound. Politicians tend to be full of sh*t, and I'm sure there will be plenty of self-righteous excrement to follow this scandal.

Grandpa h.

Rainbow · Mar 11, 2008, 02:39 pm

Morality & Ethics vs. Politics :-)))

Winter wind · Mar 11, 2008, 09:43 pm

I don't think it's only politicians that are hypocritical, it's just that people pay more attention to them and try to catch them at every fault. Everyone is hypocritical, but the ones who have to seem the firmest in their beliefs and have the closest scrutiny are the ones we pay attention to.

JaneDoe321 · Mar 11, 2008, 11:58 pm

My personal "favorites" are when it's the rabid "family values" politicians who find themselves on the wrong side of the bathroom stall door... or whatever. I just wish it would tone down the rhetoric for a while, instead of stirring up their fellow attack dogs to new levels of mouth-frothing.

Aside from that, it's a personal relationship issue, and not necessarily indicative of their ability or lack thereof as a "leader". I'm pretty sure even most politicians are human, and everybody screws up.

**Chris** · Mar 12, 2008, 12:02 am

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I share your sense of irony. I wish I could say I couldn't find a better example of hypocrisy, but they abound. Politicians tend to be full of sh*t, and I'm sure there will be plenty of self-righteous excrement to follow this scandal.

Grandpa h.

not a politician per se, but almost. Ted Haggard.

Chancellor · Mar 12, 2008, 01:38 pm

Spitzer announced his resignation; he will be out of office as of this coming Monday.

WBEN 930 : Spitzer Resigns, Paterson Sworn In Monday

Chancellor · Mar 12, 2008, 01:45 pm

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My personal "favorites" are when it's the rabid "family values" politicians who find themselves on the wrong side of the bathroom stall door... or whatever. I just wish it would tone down the rhetoric for a while, instead of stirring up their fellow attack dogs to new levels of mouth-frothing.

Aside from that, it's a personal relationship issue, and not necessarily indicative of their ability or lack thereof as a "leader". I'm pretty sure even most politicians are human, and everybody screws up.

The problem here, though, is that this individual went after prostitution rings in his jobs as district attorney and attorney general. There appear to also be some strange financial dealings involved (which was enough to get the IRS' attention - attention that started the ball rolling).

He said in his resignation announcement that this was a private matter: So, maybe those arrested under the john law he signed could use the excuse that it's a private matter and, thus, the police have no right to arrest him.

another day · Mar 12, 2008, 03:19 pm

I really wish one day there would be a politician who admitted that he really isn't "deeply regretful" and blah blah blah and just admitted that it sucks that he got caught.

I don't care about this whatsoever. It's so typical of americans to get thoroughly riled up at any kind of sexual scandal and yet barely blink an eye at much more pertinent issues.

Chancellor · Mar 12, 2008, 04:36 pm

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I really wish one day there would be a politician who admitted that he really isn't "deeply regretful" and blah blah blah and just admitted that it sucks that he got caught.

I don't care about this whatsoever. It's so typical of americans to get thoroughly riled up at any kind of sexual scandal and yet barely blink an eye at much more pertinent issues.

If they were truly remorseful over engaging in the particular behavior, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But I think we all know that these politicians are usually expressing this so-called remorse only because it is politically correct (or at least expedient) to do so.

What really annoys me is the politician that apologizes for what he or she says just because someone whined about being offended. We know these politicians aren't really sorry about what they said and I wish they would stand up for it. Let's take, for example, what Geraldine Ferraro recently said about Barack Obama (Ferraro defends controversial comments on Barack Obama - The Daily Breeze). It certainly shows the kind of paternalism that exists in the Democrat Party (and within American liberalism in general), and I disagree with what she said, but I'm glad she is standing up for herself and refusing to give in to political correctness.

Because of their frequency and their context, politician apologies are pretty much meaningless.

**Jack** · Mar 12, 2008, 04:42 pm

What about the poor spouses? They're forced to stand next to these clowns appearing supportive while their "significant other" confesses to infidelity, corruption, all sorts of behaviors that should be his/her alone to apologize for.

I would have loved to see Spitzer's wife whack him with her purse and bitch him out in front of the cameras during his resignation. That would have been reality TV worth watching.

Chancellor · Mar 12, 2008, 05:03 pm

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What about the poor spouses? They're forced to stand next to these clowns appearing supportive while their "significant other" confesses to infidelity, corruption, all sorts of behaviors that should be his/her alone to apologize for.

I don't think they're forced to do it. In this case, Spitzer's wife didn't want him to resign.

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I would have loved to see Spitzer's wife whack him with her purse and bitch slap him out in front of the cameras during his resignation. That would have been reality TV worth watching.

It would certainly have been entertaining.

fushigi · Mar 13, 2008, 01:17 am

What I want to know is why there were federal wiretaps on a state governor in the first place.Link:

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Mr. Spitzer announced he was stepping down at a grim appearance at his Midtown Manhattan office, less than 48 hours after it emerged that he had been intercepted on a federal wiretap...

Anybody know?

**Chris** · Mar 13, 2008, 02:07 am

welcome back fushigi

xyzer · Mar 13, 2008, 10:25 am

I think fushigi the feds got into the thing because Federal Laws had been broken. Mann Act and possible concealment of earnings from the tax regulations..

What strikes me in such a case is the friends and political cronies of this guy attempting to condone his hypocrisy and deliberat violation of laws he had sworn under oath to uphold? Reminds me of the Clinton years when his supporters said his dalliances were his private life?

fushigi · Mar 13, 2008, 12:56 pm

Ah, I got it. Looks like it might have been a vengeance play by HSBC bank that made this all go down. Link

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Mr. Spitzer’s suspicious financial transactions at North Fork might never have been discovered were it not for a Suspicious Activity Report filed by HSBC about the shell companies linked to Emperor’s Club V.I.P. in October, according to several people with knowledge of the inquiry, who spoke about the investigation on condition of anonymity.

As it turned out, both the North Fork Bank and HSBC had faced inquiries into their lending practices led by Mr. Spitzer when he was New York attorney general. In the case of North Fork, Mr. Spitzer announced a settlement in 2003 requiring it to refund more than $20,000 to dozens of homeowners and cease what he said was its practice of charging homeowners illegal fees.

They say as Atty. Gen'l he was a crusader against corporate fraud, I guess he made some enemies along the way.

xyzer · Mar 14, 2008, 01:58 pm

Oh yes I forgot to ask, was this guy a Democrat? None of the Mainstream media mentioned it. When Repubs are accused of sexual misconduct they are usually labeled by the media as Conservative Bible Stompers and always identifed a Republicans? Is there a double standard?
Anyway I hope the hypocrite gets prison and I trust his wife has beaten the crap out of him.

grandpa · Mar 14, 2008, 02:32 pm

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Oh yes I forgot to ask, was this guy a
Democrat?
None of the Mainstream media mentioned it....

Double standard? What about Clinton? That was one of the biggest media events of the century.

The filthy Democrat!

Grandpa h.

Compugasm · Mar 15, 2008, 02:00 am

He shouldn't have been given the honor of a press conference. They should've busted down his door and chased him around the neighborhood with a camera in his face like everyone else.

Mar 10, 2008, 04:38 pm	#1 (permalink) (top)
Chancellor It's my first name! Location: Buffalo, New York, USA Posts: 3,523	N.Y. governor apologizes after prostitution link Governor apologizes after prostitution link - Politics - MSNBC.com NEW YORK - Gov. Eliot Spitzer apologized to his family and the public on Monday, but did not not elaborate on a bombshell report that he has been involved in a prostitution ring. "I have acted in a way that violates my obligations to my family ... my sense of right and wrong," he said at a news conference at his Manhattan office. "I must now dedicate some time to rededicate my trust to my family." Spitzer's wife stood at his side, her hands behind her back and her eyes cast downward, as he made the statement. (The bolding of text above is mine). Here are possibly other details from another source: WBEN 930 : Spitzer Linked To Prostitution Ring (details in the links within the source). I think he should be worried more about his restoring his family's trust in him than to his trust to his family. "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams -

Mar 11, 2008, 10:05 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
Winter wind Never mad Location: Hong Kong, China Posts: 1,877	I had mixed feeling about him before. He was a great at cracking down on crime, but he was so heavy handed when he came to office and so self-righteous, that the irony of this made me laugh for hours. (not the happy kind) Don't forget this is all in good fun! "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details." Albert Einstein "The devil is in the details" -?

Mar 11, 2008, 09:43 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
Winter wind Never mad Location: Hong Kong, China Posts: 1,877	I don't think it's only politicians that are hypocritical, it's just that people pay more attention to them and try to catch them at every fault. Everyone is hypocritical, but the ones who have to seem the firmest in their beliefs and have the closest scrutiny are the ones we pay attention to. Don't forget this is all in good fun! "I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details." Albert Einstein "The devil is in the details" -?

Mar 12, 2008, 01:38 pm	#8 (permalink) (top)
Chancellor It's my first name! Location: Buffalo, New York, USA Posts: 3,523	Spitzer announced his resignation; he will be out of office as of this coming Monday. WBEN 930 : Spitzer Resigns, Paterson Sworn In Monday "America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own." -John Quincy Adams -

Mar 12, 2008, 03:19 pm	#10 (permalink) (top)
another day slipping sand Posts: 1,988	I really wish one day there would be a politician who admitted that he really isn't "deeply regretful" and blah blah blah and just admitted that it sucks that he got caught. I don't care about this whatsoever. It's so typical of americans to get thoroughly riled up at any kind of sexual scandal and yet barely blink an eye at much more pertinent issues. Look out kid, they keep it all hid.

Mar 11, 2008, 02:39 pm	#4 (permalink) (top)
Rainbow Volcanic Erupter Posts: 3,250	Morality & Ethics vs. Politics :-)))

Mar 11, 2008, 11:58 pm	#6 (permalink) (top)
JaneDoe321 Igneous Magma Posts: 320	My personal "favorites" are when it's the rabid "family values" politicians who find themselves on the wrong side of the bathroom stall door... or whatever. I just wish it would tone down the rhetoric for a while, instead of stirring up their fellow attack dogs to new levels of mouth-frothing. Aside from that, it's a personal relationship issue, and not necessarily indicative of their ability or lack thereof as a "leader". I'm pretty sure even most politicians are human, and everybody screws up.

Mar 12, 2008, 04:42 pm	#12 (permalink) (top)
Jack formerly Isherwood Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 14,078	What about the poor spouses? They're forced to stand next to these clowns appearing supportive while their "significant other" confesses to infidelity, corruption, all sorts of behaviors that should be his/her alone to apologize for. I would have loved to see Spitzer's wife whack him with her purse and bitch him out in front of the cameras during his resignation. That would have been reality TV worth watching. The Forum Rules Radical Atheist Heathen Queer Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. (Ashleigh Brilliant)

Mar 13, 2008, 02:07 am	#15 (permalink) (top)
Chris Gamma-ray burst Location: Nashville Posts: 6,376	welcome back fushigi I voted against the theocratic psychopaths Shared

Mar 13, 2008, 10:25 am	#16 (permalink) (top)
xyzer Liberated thinker Location: New Mexican Alps Posts: 2,268	I think fushigi the feds got into the thing because Federal Laws had been broken. Mann Act and possible concealment of earnings from the tax regulations.. What strikes me in such a case is the friends and political cronies of this guy attempting to condone his hypocrisy and deliberat violation of laws he had sworn under oath to uphold? Reminds me of the Clinton years when his supporters said his dalliances were his private life? Thus we play the fools with the time, and the spirits of the wise sit in the clouds and mock us.

Mar 14, 2008, 01:58 pm	#18 (permalink) (top)
xyzer Liberated thinker Location: New Mexican Alps Posts: 2,268	Oh yes I forgot to ask, was this guy a Democrat? None of the Mainstream media mentioned it. When Repubs are accused of sexual misconduct they are usually labeled by the media as Conservative Bible Stompers and always identifed a Republicans? Is there a double standard? Anyway I hope the hypocrite gets prison and I trust his wife has beaten the crap out of him. Thus we play the fools with the time, and the spirits of the wise sit in the clouds and mock us.

Mar 15, 2008, 02:00 am	#20 (permalink) (top)
Compugasm Son of X51 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,851	He shouldn't have been given the honor of a press conference. They should've busted down his door and chased him around the neighborhood with a camera in his face like everyone else. Death to Videodrome! Long live The New flesh!