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Old Mar 6, 2008, 07:09 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Gosh darn! Cussing banned in California town

CNN article: Cussing banned in California town for the first week of March
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So if you're headed to South Pasadena this week, be sure to turn down the volume on that Snoop Dogg CD, and, if the little old lady from Pasadena cuts you off in traffic, don't even think about flipping her the bird.

Not that police will slap cuffs on you and haul your sorry, er, butt off to jail in light of the proclamation passed Wednesday by the City Council. But you could be shamed into better behavior by the unsettling glares of residents who take their reputation for civility seriously.

"That's one of the purposes of this," Mayor Michael Cacciotti said of his city's proclamation designating the first week of March as No Cussing Week. "It provides us a reminder to be more civil, to elevate the level of discourse."

The proclamation will be in effect until Friday, and then the first week of every March hereafter.

South Pasadena, a tranquil city of tree-shaded cottages at the base of a mountain range eight miles north of downtown Los Angeles, isn't the first to try to rein in potty mouths. Earlier this year, the St. Louis suburb of St. Charles, Missouri, proposed banning swearing in bars. Last year, hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons called for an industrywide ban on racially and sexually charged epithets.

I think this is getting ridiculous. All they're doing is giving the word more power. If it's not being used in a negative way, like actually referring to a female dog if someone says bitch, or if someone says something is f**ing awesome while excited.

I mean, it's a few words. To do such a thing is saying that the word has a great power over these people.

Anyway, what do you think?


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Old Mar 6, 2008, 07:10 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Oops, forget title

Can someone please change title to " Gosh darn! Cussing banned in California town"


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Old Mar 6, 2008, 07:25 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Oops, forget title

Can someone please change title to "Cussing banned in Town"

Not only that, but that proclamation just about sums up Volconvos charter, that civility elevates the level of discourse.


Personally, I'm not so sure the philosophy is sound.


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Old Mar 6, 2008, 07:55 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Personally, I'm not so sure the philosophy is sound.
And I'm more and more convinced that it is.

The older I get, the more I miss the common courtesy and polite manners that were ingrained in me as a child. The way I see it, the more crowded, hectic and demanding our society becomes, the more it would benefit from some civility. Otherwise all we get it the balkanized divisiveness everyone seems to whine about.


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Old Mar 7, 2008, 02:33 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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And I'm more and more convinced that it is.

The older I get, the more I miss the common courtesy and polite manners that were ingrained in me as a child. The way I see it, the more crowded, hectic and demanding our society becomes, the more it would benefit from some civility. Otherwise all we get it the balkanized divisiveness everyone seems to whine about.

Funny, whenever the civility goes out the window in our conversations, I would tell you it's because it is you who draws first blood. ( And I have yet to post tasteless photos in an effort to discredit the opposition. )


Sounds like you have a double standard there friend.


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Old Mar 7, 2008, 04:57 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Constitutional rights of freedom of speech. This is a ridiculous law that I see fizzling out in the future. I am not an advocate of cussing, but I must confess everyone I know, as well as myself cuss. Might as well slap the hand cuffs on us now and haul us to jail for this heinous crime.

I say we should stop wasting time with this kind of crap and actually use the police force for what it was meant, to protect.
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Old Mar 7, 2008, 05:26 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Odd that they are just claiming one month out of the year as "clean talk" month. Yet I do not see that as a crack down of cuss words, but more of motion to make it an issue that get attention, like if a city has "corn month" to bring attention to corn as a food item. Needless to say they would not force you to eat corn.
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Old Mar 7, 2008, 05:41 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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They don't arrest you (as far as I know) since that's a violation of the 1st amendment, but you do get really scolded and stuff for saying it. They treat the word as if it will tun their lives into some horrible thing. It's just a word people, responding to it in such a negative way only fuels its use as a derogatory term.


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Old Mar 8, 2008, 06:18 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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It's as phukkin silly as hell.
There's a great deal more to courtesy than forgoing the uttering of bad words. These people are looking at civility through the wrong end of a proctoscope.


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Old Mar 8, 2008, 11:43 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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It's as phukkin silly as hell.
There's a great deal more to courtesy than forgoing the uttering of bad words. These people are looking at civility through the wrong end of a proctoscope.

Do you think that relates to Volconvos policy as well?


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Old Mar 8, 2008, 11:45 am   #11 (permalink) (top)
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It's as phukkin silly as hell.
There's a great deal more to courtesy than forgoing the uttering of bad words. These people are looking at civility through the wrong end of a proctoscope.
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Funny, whenever the civility goes out the window in our conversations, I would tell you it's because it is you who draws first blood.
Interesting observation... just for the halibut, I went through a thread down below this one, U.S. Justices could decide the Constitutionality of Gun Ownership, in which we vehemently disagree. For page after page, Osborn and I managed to share an extensive and quite civil discussion. You finally show up and the first thing off your keyboard is to call everyone who disagrees with you "commies", or their lackies.

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Tasteless??? I thought they were quite funny.



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Old Mar 8, 2008, 05:19 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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Interesting observation... just for the halibut, I went through a thread down below this one, U.S. Justices could decide the Constitutionality of Gun Ownership, in which we vehemently disagree. For page after page, Osborn and I managed to share an extensive and quite civil discussion. You finally show up and the first thing off your keyboard is to call everyone who disagrees with you "commies", or their lackies.

One example would imply the exception, and not the rule.


Also, nevermind that the point you chose to illustrate happens to be my honest opinion. So it's not name calling as much as it is an accusation.


I mean what I say.


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Old Mar 8, 2008, 09:10 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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...if the little old lady from Pasadena cuts you off in traffic, don't even think about flipping her the bird.
WTF, wait a minute, this bitch can't drive, and I'm the guilty one?

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..The proclamation will be in effect until Friday, and then the first week of every March hereafter...
What? This was dangerously close to black history month, and St Patricks day. Looks like this lucky town dodged a bullet there.

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Last year, hip-hop mogul Russell Simmons called for an industrywide ban on racially and sexually charged epithets.
You mean, the guy who made millions riding on the back of this very idea? Am I on a hidden camera show, are you guys messin with me? Come on now.


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Old Mar 8, 2008, 09:16 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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You mean, the guy who made millions riding on the back of this very idea? Am I on a hidden camera show, are you guys messin with me? Come on now.
Shit, he sees the cameras, quick, hide them!

But, ya, it's ridiculous that this sort of stuff is happening.


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Old Mar 8, 2008, 09:35 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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CNN article: Cussing banned in California town for the first week of March
In other words, don't dare remind anyone that they're being an asshole. If anyone in this town gives me a dirty look for smoking, I'll say "mind your own business fatty". I might come up with new words. Like "Fat-hole". Mind your own business, you fat-hole. Bacon blogger. You kumquat face. You taco pie. Smoke my papal seminary. You nougat snorkel!!



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Another point for the conservatives. Sure, they had to violate the constitution to do it. But hell, now the dirty kids won't fill the air with their dirty words. Whatever it takes


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Old Mar 8, 2008, 10:00 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Old Mar 8, 2008, 10:36 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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It's not the words, though. It's the context the words is used in. Like, if I said "That's a bitch" I could mean that there is a female dog. Or I could mean that something sucks. It all depends on context. If you ban a word, people will just think up new words that they can use.


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Old Mar 9, 2008, 03:25 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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It's not the words, though. It's the context the words is used in. Like, if I said "That's a bitch" I could mean that there is a female dog. Or I could mean that something sucks. It all depends on context. If you ban a word, people will just think up new words that they can use.
Yeah, it's not the words but the person behind the words that make them sound bad.

When I was young Etta James had this song out called "Roll with me Henry". People protested so the changed it to "Dance with me Henry" and later gave it a title "The Wallflower" (a wallflower is someone who never dances but just sits on the sidelines).

Censorship was dominate through out the USA up until the sexual revolution of the 1960s. When I was in gradeschool I was not allowed to go into a bowling alley because that was a place for adult men only, a place were they could cuss if the wanted without women or kids being present. Like going to a private nudist camp, they had places where you can cuss and where it was taboo. Never in the presense of a lady, or in front of the children. No one was cussing and claiming a Consitutional right to do so, in a public place.

Only on a rare occation if pop accidently hit his finger while hammering in a nail would hear a cuss word.

I do not know what point it is I am making with that little historical review.
Other then that the way people communicate changed a lot between 1957 and 2007.

Cussing is the result of our last big revolution when people wanted " a change " from what was then the establishment, which had censored a lot of things from pot to potty mouth. Now we are in another cycle where they want to ban nudity, pot, cigarettes, bad words, and even the theory of evolution if they can. And more then just that I guess.

Make up your mind America. Freedom and liberty, or censorship and morally motivated dictatorships. I doubt if you can have it both ways.
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And I'm more and more convinced that it is.

The older I get, the more I miss the common courtesy and polite manners that were ingrained in me as a child. The way I see it, the more crowded, hectic and demanding our society becomes, the more it would benefit from some civility. Otherwise all we get it the balkanized divisiveness everyone seems to whine about.


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