Iran may be biggest threat to Iraq - U.S. general

[grandpa]

Quote by: Anmon So don't attack then doh

When you're constantly under attack by Israel, it may be difficult to refrain from attacking back.

Grandpa h.

I'm sorry if I seem to have some mispelling, I didn't suggest that the Israeli forces strip their jackets off, you said it yourself they aren't all geared up because of those children. apparently they are geared up for other reasons, my point being is, stop treating kids like they are serial killers, beating them up and torturing them is not a solution, and no I did not encourage suicide bombing, there is a huge difference between throwing rocks and blowing ones self up, and thus the verdict of each one should be different depending on the crime and on age. Those are children for crying out loud, don't you think that they should be handled differently, beating the crap out of them is not an answer, locking them up and denying them education is certainly not an answer either, it's hard for you to see that because your media fails to prevail what we see. As for Iran having to sign that treaty well it signed it because it had to, it was under pressure, same goes to other nations EXCEPT for israel.

[Anmon]

Quote by: grandpa I didn't say Arabs are without blame. But to place most of the blame on the general Arab population is simply an inversion of reality. Grandpa h.

I didn't place the blame on them, their own leaders and other Arabs have sold them out, there are a lot more wealthy and well off Arabs than poor ones, you have for instance, Arabia, Kuwait, Bhutan, Qatar, Turkey, Iran etc well off Arab country's, then you have ones at the other end like Lebonan, Iraq, Pakistan Afghanistan etc, the well off Arabs don't really give a rats bum about the poor ones, anymore than the average westerner does.

The reason the rich Arab nations don't give a dime about the poor ones is simply because the rich ones only care about their ranks and status, no one is willing to sacrifice that for the well being of their people.

[Magnus]

Quote by: Anmon I didn't place the blame on them, their own leaders and other Arabs have sold them out, there are a lot more wealthy and well off Arabs than poor ones, you have for instance, Arabia, Kuwait, Bhutan, Qatar, Turkey, Iran etc well off Arab country's, then you have ones at the other end like Lebonan, Iraq, Pakistan Afghanistan etc, the well off Arabs don't really give a rats bum about the poor ones, anymore than the average westerner does.

Prove that there are more wealthy arabs than poor ones.

This is one of the most ignorant arguments ive ever heard. This guy doesnt even know that Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey and Iran are NOT even Arab.

Please talk to us about Quantum Physics because you would know exactly the same about that subject as you do this one.

[Anmon]

[=e_sistani;495398]I'm sorry if I seem to have some mispelling, I didn't suggest that the Israeli forces strip their jackets off, you said it yourself they aren't all geared up because of those children. apparently they are geared up for other reasons, my point being is, stop treating kids like they are serial killers, beating them up and torturing them is not a solution, and no I did not encourage suicide bombing, there is a huge difference between throwing rocks and blowing ones self up, and thus the verdict of each one should be different depending on the crime and on age.

Well maybe they shouldn't be throwing rocks then, I don't think the soldiers really have the luxury to place a different verdict on every kid or person who attacks them, put yourself in their position, they are getting threatened every day, shot at sometimes, blown up even, its not going to take much to push them over the edge, this is reality and ideals don't really work in it much.

Those are children for crying out loud, don't you think that they should be handled differently, beating the crap out of them is not an answer,

There is no answer, a beating may stop them coming back and getting killed next time.

locking them up and denying them education is certainly not an answer either,

they can educate themselves, spend less time listening to hamas idiots would be a good start.

it's hard for you to see that because your media fails to prevail what we see. As for Iran having to sign that treaty well it signed it because it had to, it was under pressure, same goes to other nations EXCEPT for israel.

What treaty exactly is this?
And why do you have it in for Israel so much, how about just stop attacking her, playing martyr and getting on with rebuilding your economy's and maybe just maybe she wont attack you, its the arabs always breaking the peace first, every single time.

[shrike]

Quote by: sistani I'm sorry if I seem to have some mispelling, I didn't suggest that the Israeli forces strip their jackets off, you said it yourself they aren't all geared up because of those children. apparently they are geared up for other reasons, my point being is, stop treating kids like they are serial killers, beating them up and torturing them is not a solution, and no I did not encourage suicide bombing, there is a huge difference between throwing rocks and blowing ones self up, and thus the verdict of each one should be different depending on the crime and on age. Those are children for crying out loud, don't you think that they should be handled differently, beating the crap out of them is not an answer, locking them up and denying them education is certainly not an answer either, it's hard for you to see that because your media fails to prevail what we see.

I don't agree that what you described here is some kind of Israeli policy.
Of course like I said before I can't relate to specific facts because you didn't post any links.
Israel media one of the freest in the ME and comparable to other liberal democracies.

. As for Iran having to sign that treaty well it signed it because it had to, it was under pressure

What kind of pressure? It was signed in 1968 by Iran. Do you have some links to what you assert here.

same goes to other nations EXCEPT for israel.

Are you sure that only Israel is not signed the NPT

Quote by: Anmon Why would you lock up and torture your own people?

So what you are implying is that as long as you belong to the same caste, it is acceptable for you to do whatever you like and get away with it, don't you think that is a bit racist?? two people of different backgrounds, doing the same exact thing, one gets tortured and locked up while the other walks away free??

[Nono]

e_sistani, you'll soon see that shrike is a fanatic. The more you try to be reasonable with him, the more he will demand that you "prove" whatever you're saying. You will say "2+2=4" and he will demand a source that is acceptable to him. Impossible.

[Anmon]

Quote by: Magnus Prove that there are more wealthy arabs than poor ones. This is one of the most ignorant arguments ive ever heard. This guy doesnt even know that Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkey and Iran are NOT even Arab. Please talk to us about Quantum Physics because you would know exactly the same about that subject as you do this one.

Mate I cant be bothered answering you anymore tbh, you have no class at all.

[Anmon]

Quote by: e_sistani So what you are implying is that as long as you belong to the same caste, it is acceptable for you to do whatever you like and get away with it, don't you think that is a bit racist?? two people of different backgrounds, doing the same exact thing, one gets tortured and locked up while the other walks away free??

No, I can't see how racism comes into it, but then it seems to be easy to throw that word into any argument now.
Would you expect the Palestinians to do to their children, what you are advocating the Israelis do to theirs?

Quote by: shrike I don't agree that what you described here is some kind of Israeli policy. Of course like I said before I can't relate to specific facts because you didn't post any links. Israel media one of the freest in the ME and comparable to other liberal democracies. What kind of pressure? It was signed in 1968 by Iran. Do you have some links to what you assert here. Are you sure that only Israel is not signed the NPT

It is only natural that you would say such things because you are from Israel, and it is only natural that Israel presents itself as a liberal democratic nation but it doesn't necessarly mean that it is. No I don't need links to back up my every word, if you are aware of what's going on in the middle east, how Iran is being pressurized by USA everyday, being accused of posing a threat, an axis of evil, If I were in Iran's stance I would sign the treaty to silence USA and Israel, on the other hand I don't see USA bombarding Israel with such accusations.

Quote by: Anmon No, I can't see how racism comes into it, but then it seems to be easy to throw that word into any argument now. Would you expect the Palestinians to do to their children, what you are advocating the Israelis do to theirs?

rasicm perfectly fits into this argument, because you are defending that Israel locks arab children up for throwing stones, yet you refuse that they lock Israeli children up for the same act. What does that entail to you?? Justice??

[Magnus]

Quote by: Anmon Mate I cant be bothered answering you anymore tbh, you have no class at all.

Thats what happens when your argument falls apart, running around calling turks, pashtuns and persians "arabs" gets you demoted to the level that you currently are.

[shrike]

Quote by: sistani and it is only natural that Israel presents itself as a liberal democratic nation but it doesn't necessarly mean that it

Well it is and I contrary to you do have links to every fact that I post.
freedomhouse.org: Country Report

how Iran is being pressurized by USA everyday, being accused of posing a threat, an axis of evil,

Well supplying weapons to terrorist organizations that kill Americans is being in use axis of evil. Do you expect something else?

, If I were in Iran's stance I would sign the

The treaty was not signed because Israel or USA pressure in 1968 Iran was ally of Israel.

on the other hand I don't see USA bombarding Israel with such accusations.

I don't see USA bombarding Iran too. Anyway Israel is not ruled by crazy Muslim fundamentalists that thing Jewish state should disappear. Also like I mentioned there is other countries that did not sign the NPT but you don't seem to care about it

[Anmon]

Quote by: Magnus Thats what happens when your argument falls apart, running around calling turks, pashtuns and persians "arabs" gets you demoted to the level that you currently are.

oh piss off you little brat.

[Magnus]

Quote by: shrike Anyway Israel is not ruled by crazy Muslim fundamentalists

Youre right, its ruled by crazy zionists

Also like I mentioned there is other countries that did not sign the NPT but you don't seem to care about it

Uh huh, none of them occupy others and that populace isnt fighting the occupation. Also, I dont care about cows in missouri, does that also exclude me from caring about israels actions?

[Anmon]

Quote by: e_sistani rasicm perfectly fits into this argument, because you are defending that Israel locks arab children up for throwing stones, yet you refuse that they lock Israeli children up for the same act. What does that entail to you?? Justice??

But their not throwing stones at the soldiers are they?
Maybe that has something to do with it.
People have been throwing stones at each other in the middle east for thousands of years, its no big deal.

[Anmon]

Quote by: grandpa When you're constantly under attack by Israel, it may be difficult to refrain from attacking back. Grandpa h.

lol one small country with a population of three million has its surrounding neighbors of 300 million Arabs under constant attack?
How about all the silly Arabs just stop attacking Israel in the first place.

[shrike]

Quote by: magnus Youre right, its ruled by crazy zionists

Prove that they are crazy.

Uh huh, none of them occupy others and that populace isnt fighting the occupation

First of all Israel is not occupying anything its controlling some disputed land second Kashmir Muslims would not agree with you.