Clinton and Mccain the comback kids

[Cl3ver]

Clinton and McCain the comeback kids - CNN.com

Sen. John McCain easily won New Hampshire's Republican primary Tuesday, but Clinton and Barack Obama were locked in a tight race much of the night. Clinton held a 2 to 3 point lead over Obama throughout most of the night, despite recent polls showing Obama 9 points ahead of the New York senator. The Republican results mark a resurgence for McCain, whose campaign was all but written off this summer. Supporters at her headquarters chanted "comeback kid" as the results came in.

Aww, The polls lied. I was hoping for Obama and it looks like McCain stuck to what works.

It's cookin up to be a nice race.

[Jamesmckinnley]

Quote by: Cl3ver Clinton and McCain the comeback kids - CNN.com Aww, The polls lied. I was hoping for Obama and it looks like McCain stuck to what works. It's cookin up to be a nice race.

I will vote for Obama before I vote for any others.

[Jubloz]

Ugh, I'm so disappointed with the running candidates. None of them even come close to representing me; I hate them all. I feel cursed with yet another election of choosing the lesser of the evils, which, as far as I'm concerned, is hard to distinguish.

[tinybear]

Hillary gave it all she got, including the tears. Hey, I bet this race is turning out to be much more difficult than she thought!

[sevendogs]

I like both leading Democratic candidates. Clinton would be a great president; good for nature conservation and for the economy. McCain is a looser, because he is a Republican. Has hawkish attitude is appealing to computer games generation fo youngsters, but he does not have enough knowledge and experience in the economy and foreign politics.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: Jubloz Ugh, I'm so disappointed with the running candidates. None of them even come close to representing me; I hate them all. I feel cursed with yet another election of choosing the lesser of the evils, which, as far as I'm concerned, is hard to distinguish.

There are other national parties out there besides the Demoncrats and Republicans. Third parties become viable when people vote for them.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: tinybear Hillary gave it all she got, including the tears. Hey, I bet this race is turning out to be much more difficult than she thought!

The tears were crocodile tears and they had their desired effect - a bunch of women felt sorry for her and gave her the pity vote.

[Sonart]

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Quote by: Chancellor The tears were crocodile tears and they had their desired effect - a bunch of women felt sorry for her and gave her the pity vote.

And you know this because... ? ...you know Hillary personally?


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[Chaossaber314]

I really can't decide which opinion I believe about the tears. Though I don't think either is good.

1.) She was faking and this puts her on par with fellow women trying to get out of speeding tickets. I'm sure her feminist supporters would be proud.

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2.) She was being sincere and I can't vote for a head of state that tears up over the goddamn Iowa caucus. I don't want a head of state that openly cries period, let alone over something as trivial as losing one state in a primary period. We should have had a moratorium on crying leaders after Bush #1.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: Sonart . And you know this because... ? ...you know Hillary personally? .

I know this from watching much of Hillary's public behavior over the years. She is, after all, the junior Senator in my state.

[The Decider]

Quote by: Chancellor The tears were crocodile tears and they had their desired effect - a bunch of women felt sorry for her and gave her the pity vote.

Hillary won for more reasons than just a few tears: outstanding organization, effective counterattacks against Obama's "change" mantra, voters who remained loyal during a difficult time, the popularity of her husband, her health care proposals, and her most recent debate performance. But "pity vote" sounds so much more informed.

[Jubloz]

Quote by: Chancellor There are other national parties out there besides the Demoncrats and Republicans. Third parties become viable when people vote for them.

Which is why I'm not registered with either party. Unfortunately, there's still no 3rd party candidate, as far as I've noticed, that's both of quality and is running in this election.

[Chancellor]

Quote by: Jubloz Which is why I'm not registered with either party. Unfortunately, there's still no 3rd party candidate, as far as I've noticed, that's both of quality and is running in this election.

Have the other parties even selected their candidates yet? I know the Libertarian Party hasn't.

All of this nonsense going on now is solely for the purpose of seeing who the voters want the Democrats and Republicans to nominate for their respective party's presidential candidate in the general election.

[xyzer]

Wow...

Hillary won for more reasons than just a few tears: outstanding organization, effective counterattacks against Obama's "change" mantra, voters who remained loyal during a difficult time, the popularity of her husband, her health care proposals, and her most recent debate performance. But "pity vote" sounds so much more informed.

The "change" mantra was general throughout most candidates gibberish. It wasn't just Hillary spouting off? I thought we lived in a dynamic universe with constant change? Whether Hillary of Obama wins (or loses) there will be change? And most change in our political system originates in the Congress?
I dunno about you, but I don't trust emotional women with rational decision making? She might break into tears rather than order retaliation against a terrorist attack because it might hurt thre "children?

Besides those of us who pay taxes, buy our own healthcare(or earn it) dont want a socialist state where everyone is taken care of by the taxes of the productive and the growth of government? Thats what Clinton and Obama keep preaching about and you naive believers seem to want that sort of change? These two Demo front runners are socialist leaners with little if any experience in management. A house wife and a lawyer who just served one term in the Senate and never managed anything?

Bah Humbug!

[Sonart]

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Quote by: Chancellor The tears were crocodile tears and they had their desired effect - a bunch of women felt sorry for her and gave her the pity vote.

I seem to recall another well known ocassion when a candidate teared up in New Hampshire.. and it cost him the election. Edmund Muskee. Surely a candidate as politically astute as Clinton would avoid that, right? These candidates have been going at it longer than any Presidential campaign in history.

Quote by: Jubloz Which is why I'm not registered with either party. Unfortunately, there's still no 3rd party candidate, as far as I've noticed, that's both of quality and is running in this election.

There's all kinds of political parties in America, Jubloz. But since the Democrats and Republicans represent pretty much the American political mainstream, that means the others represent the political fringes.

Which means you can either vote for a radical fruitcake, or accept the fact that the kind of person who wants to run for mainstream party political office, and is willing to endure the election process to do so, will probably not be someone you particularly like.

As a wise cohort on another board once put it, politics doesn't attract nice people... it attracts ambitious, lying scoundrels. We here in America are lucky, however, in that we've evolved a Constitutional Democratic Republic that makes use of their best attributes -- drive, vision, the desire to succeed and do some good, etc. -- while putting checks and balances on their worst attributes -- greed, naked ambition, lust for power, etc.

No, it sure ain't perfect... but then, anyone here wanna claim to be perfect?

Quote by: xyzer I dunno about you, but I don't trust emotional women with rational decision making?

Sure wish you folks would make up your minds... all this time Hillary's been accused of being too cold and calculating, of being an emotionless android. Suddenly, she catches her throat for a split second from a personal question that apparently touched a button and she's now "an emotional woman" incapable of rational decision making. Go figure.

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[Chancellor]

Quote by: Sonart . I seem to recall another well known ocassion when a candidate teared up in New Hampshire.. and it cost him the election. Edmund Muskee.

That was an entirely different era.

Surely a candidate as politically astute as Clinton would avoid that, right? These candidates have been going at it longer than any Presidential campaign in history.

See above.

There's all kinds of political parties in America, Jubloz. But since the Democrats and Republicans represent pretty much the American political mainstream, that means the others represent the political fringes.

Political parties become viable when people vote for them and there are a lot more people with ideas that are on the "political fringes" than we might think.

Which means you can either vote for a radical fruitcake, or accept the fact that the kind of person who wants to run for mainstream party political office, and is willing to endure the election process to do so, will probably not be someone you particularly like.

See above.

As a wise cohort on another board once put it, politics doesn't attract nice people... it attracts ambitious, lying scoundrels.

There is a lot of truth to this. Politicians are in the same category as used car salesmen and televangelists.

We here in America are lucky, however, in that we've evolved a Constitutional Democratic Republic that makes use of their best attributes -- drive, vision, the desire to succeed and do some good, etc. -- while putting checks and balances on their worst attributes -- greed, naked ambition, lust for power, etc.

I'm not sure I agree with such a glowing assessment.

No, it sure ain't perfect... but then, anyone here wanna claim to be perfect?.

Perfect is boring.

[Sonart]

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Quote by: Chancellor That was an entirely different era.

Oh really?... how convenient.

Quote by: Chancellor Political parties become viable when people vote for them and there are a lot more people with ideas that are on the "political fringes" than we might think.

Again... Oh really? Ron Paul decided to bring his fringe platform into the mainstream by running as a Republican. But folks take one look at his platform and see it's too radical for them. So even in a field of dramatic under-achievers, Paul is doing really well to manage a paltry 8%.

Quote by: Chancellor See above.

(") Nope, I don't see anything up there that changes this.

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Quote by: Chancellor There is a lot of truth to this. Politicians are in the same category as used car salesmen and televangelists.

And since our livelyhoods often depend on how the country's being run, it seems to be that we should accept this unfortunate fact and try to choose the best from the choices we have.... not throw up our hands in dispair and whine about the choices we don't.

Quote by: Chancellor I'm not sure I agree with such a glowing assessment.

It didn't seem all that glowing to me... more along the line of Sir Winston Churchill's assessment....

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."

[PatC]

Is anyone else annoyed with the Hilary crying thing as I am. I am fearful that it has the potential to rival all the Britney Spears shit. I pray that i dont have to hear that she didnt cry in south carolina but lets wait until michigan and see if she crys again. Its all irrelevant, Mitt Romney cried, and actually cried, a week a two ago and everyone already forgot about it. There is real news to report not this junk. I dont even care for Hilary I just want the news outlets to focus on the real issues. Though im not holding my breath.

[Sonart]

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Quote by: PatC Is anyone else annoyed with the Hilary crying thing as I am. I am fearful that it has the potential to rival all the Britney Spears shit.

LOL!! Yeah, that kept me up all last night, worrying whether or not Hillary is going to pull a Britney Spears.



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[sevendogs]

I will vote for a Democrat, either Hillary or Obama. With McCain on the ballot, Democrats are in win/win position. Bush yesterday said he would run for a change. Why to change, if everything was good? McCain would not change much.