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Old Dec 13, 2007, 12:04 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Report: Hitler may have had English love child



Did Unity Mitford have Adolf Hitler’s love child? - Times Online

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She was the English aristocrat who became so enamoured with Hitler that she shot herself in the head at the outbreak of war.

Unity Mitford, the daughter of Lord Redesdale, had been so entwined in the Fuhrer’s inner circle that British secret services described her as "more Nazi than the Nazis." But could this cousin of Winston Churchill have been closer to Hitler than anyone suspected?

An article published today raises the possibility that Mitford, who survived her suicide attempt, may have given birth to his child.

If the theory that this baby was born in a tiny Cotswolds village and rapidly adopted were true, Hitler’s child could be living somewhere in Britain today.

Unity Mitford was one of six well known — and somewhat politically diverse — sisters who included Diana, the wife of Sir Oswald Mosley, and Jessica, a committed communist. Jessica and another sister, Nancy, became well-known writers.

Unity first went to Germany in the early 1930s, when the Nazis were on the rise, and the young woman was so overwhelmed by a the Nuremberg rallies that she became determined to meet Hitler. This she managed in spectacular style, ingratiating herself to the point where he described her to friends as "a perfect specimen of Aryan womanhood."

When her homeland declared war on the Third Reich in September 1939, Mitford was so devastated that, in the English Garden in Munich, she shot herself in the head with a pistol.


She suffered serious brain damage and returned to Britain via Switzerland. As the history books tell it, Mitford then lived as an invalid with her mother in the Cotswolds until her death, at the age of 33, in 1948.

Martin Bright, writing in the New Statesman, describes a phone call he received from a woman called Val Hann that suggested there could be more to it: "She explained that her aunt Betty Norton had run a maternity home to the gentry in Oxfordshire during the war and that Unity Mitford had been one of her clients.

""Her aunt’s business, in the tiny village of Wigginton, had depended on discretion and she had told no one except her sister that Unity had had a baby. Her sister had passed the story on to her daughter Val."

When asked who the father of this child might be, Ms Hann paused before replying: ""Well, she always said it was Hitler’s."

Sceptical but intrigued, Mr Bright visited Wigginton, where he looked around the aunt’s former business, at Hill View Cottage, and met a woman called Audrey Smith.

""Audrey Smith was a little girl at the time, but by pure chance her sister (now dead, unfortunately) had worked at the home and had talked about Unity. Audrey claimed that she had seen Unity wrapped in a blanket and looking very ill. However, she insisted that she was at the home not to have a baby, but to recover from a nervous breakdown."

Unsurprisingly, Mitford’s surviving sister, the Duchess of Devonshire, was unimpressed by Bright’s investigations. ""She was adamant that there was nothing in the Wigginton story and claimed she could produce her mother’s diaries to prove it."

But a file on Mitford at the National Archives indicated that she may not have been such an invalid. Bright notes: ""By October 1941, the police picked up rumours that "Unity Mitford has formed an attachment for an officer in the RAF.’ Further investigation found that she had been "consorting with Pilot Officer John Sidney Andrews", an RAF test pilot.

The married Andrews was apparently transferred to the north of Scotland and died in 1945, leaving no further clues about Mitford. A trawl of the Oxfordshire register office ""confirmed that Nurse Norton had helped dozens of wartime mothers give birth at her maternity home. But no record of Unity Mitford."

Bright, who remains deeply sceptical about the possibility of a Hitler Junior, has thrown in the towel.

The makers of a forthcoming Channel 4 documentary, Hitler’s British Girl, examined theories surrounding Mitford’s notorious life and concluded there was very little evidence that she was pregnant or ever had a sexual relationship with Hitler.

Whereas some might consider the idea of her giving birth to the Fuhrer’s only offspring to be a harmless and intriguing tale, Richard Evans, professor of modern history at the University of Cambridge, thinks differently. ""Unity Mitford’s relationship with Hitler was basically political," he said. ""She was a hard-line Nazi and a rabid racist and anti-Semite, and I’m worried that gossip about her personal life might take attention away from these facts."
So do you think Hitler Jr. is strolling around somewhere in the world today?
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 10:17 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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that's a weird thought


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Old Dec 14, 2007, 10:36 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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So do you think Hitler Jr. is strolling around somewhere in the world today?
So what if he is? He is lucky that he has his anonomous identity. What would you have done to him if he is outed? The sons of their fathers are not repsonsible for their fathers' transgressions.

I say if this is true, then I am satisfied he has his privacy.


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Old Dec 14, 2007, 04:42 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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So what if he is? He is lucky that he has his anonomous identity. What would you have done to him if he is outed? The sons of their fathers are not repsonsible for their fathers' transgressions.

I say if this is true, then I am satisfied he has his privacy.
Uhh.. i don't see where you got the idea that he wanted to persecute this guy. He's just curious.

But your right it's good he has his privacy. I would say if it's true, this guy probably wouldn't even know that he was hitler's son.


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Old Dec 14, 2007, 04:59 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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But your right it's good he has his privacy. I would say if it's true, this guy probably wouldn't even know that he was hitler's son.
imagine if someone told him.

I never know what to believe with history but the documentaries are always telling enough to form a vague opinion. never heard this one.
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Old Dec 14, 2007, 07:55 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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So what if he is? He is lucky that he has his anonomous identity. What would you have done to him if he is outed? The sons of their fathers are not repsonsible for their fathers' transgressions.

I say if this is true, then I am satisfied he has his privacy.
Yeah I never said anything about sacrificing the anti-christ to god to sever the evil ties... jeez come on now.

I have no personal hate for the guy, because obviously he hasn't done anything..... well... that we know of anyways.

Maybe it's Bush?
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Old Dec 15, 2007, 04:05 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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A Prolific Genghis Khan, It Seems, Helped People the World - New York Times
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A remarkable living legacy of the Mongol empire has been discovered by geneticists in a survey of human populations from the Caucasus to China.

They find that as many as 8 percent of the men dwelling in the confines of the former Mongol empire bear Y chromosomes that seem characteristic of the Mongol ruling house.

If so, some 16 million men, or half a percent of the world's male population, can probably claim descent from Genghis Khan. (...)
OK, so GK is maybe one of my (and your) ancestors. Not just one poor geek (or geekess) in the UK, but billions of us.

Though lacking the same technical means, GK was as much of a bugger as Hitler, and still managed to do a great deal of evil.

This Prof. Evans is right: That ain't the point.


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Old Dec 15, 2007, 05:24 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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If Adolf Hitler had an English child then he could get a new passport! What would this benefit anyone? If he was found he would be surrounded by people who would like him to come back to Germany and get political with them, placing words in his mouth so as to motivate some percentage of the population into doing as they say. What is in a bloodline? People would react differently to him, and he to them, if he was ever found out, attaching the name of Adolf Hitler to everything he does, no longer being so and so but the son of Hitler. He would be an instant celebrity though, and some people can't handle that in thie rold age after getting used to living a certain way, so it would do him harm you could say, with people plotting to kill him. So why are people looking for him? For a historically correctness that won't help anyone? What can he do for them, or they for him? It is like an attack on his credibility. This issue should be left alone as it is detremental to this person if they are the child of Hitler.


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Old Dec 17, 2007, 03:07 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Yeah I never said anything about sacrificing the anti-christ to god to sever the evil ties... jeez come on now.
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Uhh.. i don't see where you got the idea that he wanted to persecute this guy. He's just curious.
As was I, in asking, what would have done to the guy if he was outed? I never said you would persecute him. I didn't say you would celebrate him either. I didn't say anything one side or the other. Just curious like you.


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Old Dec 19, 2007, 01:24 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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I just think it's very interesting. I also agree that he should be allowed his privacy to live out his life. Just because his father is despised doesn't mean he should be too.
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Old Dec 25, 2007, 02:56 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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I think it is important, for the sake of freedom, that we know every world leader's lineage. Why not expose who he is? Who care about his freedoms? No one cares about Britney Spears freedoms when she shaves here head, we're talking about Hitler's kid here! There are sci-fi novelists coming their pants right now
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