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Old Dec 1, 2007, 12:05 pm   #41 (permalink) (top)
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Yes. Actually I would expect to see counter protesting. We see this in America all the time. Blacks on one side of the street shouting "Free Micheal Vick". And whites on the other side of the street shouting "Hang Micheal Vick".

Same with every issue that gets protested here in America.

As tinybear said; "If peaceful Muslims far far outnumber the extremists, they should come right out and denounce them".

Inescapable logic. Where are they? There's so many of them. Yet they remain hidden. Why?
well you wouldnt really see the same counter protests because The Sudan is not the same place as America, and doesnt have the same freedoms.

Enjoy your freedom.

Also, have we come to the conclusion that the innocent teacher did not name the teddy herself? So why would she face punishment?

Maybe this is an example of mainstream media sensationalizing something. -Similar to the mohammed cartoons.


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Old Dec 1, 2007, 02:35 pm   #42 (permalink) (top)
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Also, have we come to the conclusion that the innocent teacher did not name the teddy herself? So why would she face punishment?
All the reports I've seen include that tid-bit. I guess she "allowed" them to call it Mohammad. In hindsight, perhaps "Mo" woulda been better.

My last girl friend of 4 years was half Turkish. Her father, Kamile, was a full blooded Turkish immigrant. A practicing Muslim who observed Ramadan and he was a damn cool guy. I remember many a time when he would give me these whiskey fueled passionate speeches about his unrelenting ANGER toward radical Muslims. He is also a devout Republican. A breach of commonly perceived Muslim stereotypes. I asked him before why Muslims do not usurp the radical elements in their world. He would pat me on the back and say in his thick smokey Turkish accent "These places, they are not America. Why do you think I come here for aye?"

So perhaps I am snared in a stereotypical and slightly ignorant opinion of how "easy" it would be for them to quell it. It would be refreshing to see a mass organized effort within the Muslim community, home and abroad, to destroy the radical element within.
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Old Dec 1, 2007, 03:41 pm   #43 (permalink) (top)
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they cant afford to execute her because shes probably one of the only qualified teachers in the country. if the population of Sudan spent more time teaching and not all day praying maybe they wouldnt be stuck in the third world expecting westen handouts.
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Old Dec 2, 2007, 01:43 am   #44 (permalink) (top)
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I just came across this:

Muslims: Teddy Bear Protesters Don't Represent Us

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Moderate Muslims have been swift to condemn the events in Sudan. Daisy Khan, director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, spoke to Bill Weir on "Good Morning America Weekend Edition" about how a school project escalated into a crisis over the Christian and Muslim cultural divide and why it should be seen only as fringe extremism...
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Old Dec 2, 2007, 09:05 am   #45 (permalink) (top)
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Indeed Chris. Plus ruksak has ignored the fact that Muslims have actually travelled to the Sudan to argue the teachers' case with the government....is that 'insufficient'?


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Old Dec 2, 2007, 03:13 pm   #46 (permalink) (top)
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Indeed Chris. Plus ruksak has ignored the fact that Muslims have actually travelled to the Sudan to argue the teachers' case with the government....is that 'insufficient'?
I "ignore" nothing. People that wish to remain ignorant do things like that.

If this case were an isolated event, yes I would agree that sufficient response has been observed. But things of this nature happen on a constant. Muslims, not just radical card carrying Islamo-fascist, gather in VERY large numbers and protest relatively insignificant happenings while calling for blood and death, quite often.

Yet the counter reaction by the "good" Muslims is always placid and insignificant. These same Muslims will speak with far more emotion and fervor when addressing the racist Americans whom criticize them.
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Old Dec 3, 2007, 02:01 pm   #47 (permalink) (top)
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YouTube - Laugh at Sudan
This guy is my hero.

The teacher was sent out of Sudan and her sentence dropped. That is a positive note. But as they say, you cannot polish a terd. You will only get sh*t everywhere.
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Old Dec 3, 2007, 02:10 pm   #48 (permalink) (top)
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KHARTOUM, Sudan - A British teacher jailed for insulting Islam after she allowed her students to name a teddy bear Muhammad flew home Monday after Sudan's president pardoned her, a British embassy spokesman said.

'Teddy bear' teacher leaves Sudan - Yahoo! News


Hooray! Justice has prevailed!!

But....

"On Friday during a rally in Khartoum, thousands of protesters, many armed with clubs and swords and beating drums, burned pictures of her and demanded her execution.

After the rally, there were fears for Gibbons' safety and she was moved from the Omdurman women's prison to a secret location, her lawyer has said.

There was no overt sign that the government organized the protest, but such a rally could not have taken place without at least official assent.

Sudan's ambassador in London, Khalid al-Mubarak, insisted Monday that the demonstrations "were an argument from the fringe."


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Old Dec 3, 2007, 02:44 pm   #49 (permalink) (top)
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Agree, Tinybear, that the assertion of "argument from the fringe" is a bit difficult to swallow when earlier in the same article this was said:

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the case was caught up in the ideology that al-Bashir's Islamic regime has long instilled in Sudan, a mix of anti-colonialism, religious fundamentalism and a sense that the West is besieging Islam.


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