Shoot UK teacher, say protesters

[Muser]

Quote by: Suburbanite If the best thing a muslim can be is apathetic, how about we just drop some jesus pamphlets over their huts.

I'd rather we drop Age of Enlightenment pamphlets and bring them up to the 19th century.

[ruksak]

Quote by: Praxius More information on this subject: Thousands demand British teacher's execution in Sudan By their own laws, the worst she could face is 40 Lashes... seeking her death goes against their own laws.

Anything more than a "Hey don't do that. It's not cool" is too much.

Also, Mohamed is the most popular name on the planet Earth. More people have that name than any other name.

So why is it OK for an American championship boxer to be named Mohamed, but not a teddy bear? Because it is an object? Or is there a stark difference between Muhammad and Mohamed?

Seeking her death may go against their own laws. But it apparently doesn't go against their cultural norms.

[Suburbanite]

Quote by: Muser I'd rather we drop Age of Enlightenment pamphlets and bring them up to the 19th century.

baby steps...

[Zeebadee]

I'd like to see a few of those that advocate public protests by "peaceful Muslims" lead the way on this. Go to your local newspaper, identify yourself, and have your message put into print for everyone to see. Or get on one of the internet sites that allow personal messages and do the same.

Probably not such a good idea, is it? And you live in a much safer place than Sudan.

[ruksak]

Quote by: Zeebadee Probably not such a good idea, is it? And you live in a much safer place than Sudan.

Solid proof that terrorism works.

Fear suppresses freedom.

[GHook93]

Quote by: ruksak They're all sitting this out. I don't see them taking to the streets in London. Downtown Indianapolis has nary an angry Muslim protesting the violence that is Islam. Where are they if not in America? Muslims will expend all of their energies into protesting Westerners "racist" views of Islam. But there are no pro-active measures being undertaken to eliminate this so-called minority fanaticism. Every opportunity they have to voice opposition to extremism, gets passed up. Sure, they held vigils and quite small protests against 9/11. But concerning the microcosmic events such as the one stated in the OP of this thread, they take a seat.

The question was possed at protest against the Sudanese radicals in the Sudan.

Protests by Muslims in the West is another story. And I agree Moderate Muslim saying nothing in the West is once again eye-opening.

[tinybear]

Quote by: GHook93 Exactly its America!!! We can do it because we have a free society, that the liberals take for granted. Very easy to be holier than thou from your Ivory Tower. Protesters could be killed on the stop, without the killer even getting slapped on the wrist. Speaking up in Sudan could have a much more blowback than speaking up in America. I don't fault the moderate muslims in the Sudan for sitting this out!

Yeah, this is the point isn't it? The mainstream view is anything but moderate. If the mainstream view is the moderate one and the fanatics are just a tiny minority, there would be no blowback, would there?

[Zeebadee]

Quote by: ruksak Solid proof that terrorism works. Fear suppresses freedom.

It's not terrorism to them.

[Winter wind]

Of course of course every time the Islamic world does soemthing wrong the liberals have to attack Israel. This blatant ignorant statement. There liberal blind left-wing in Israel is almost as bad as they are in America. The left-wing protested the Lebannon War. Many protest the plan to shut off the justified plan to shut of electricity for every missile attack launched at Israel. Do a little homework next and try to keep Israel out of a talk on injustice in the Islamic world.

Whoa whoa! I never said liberals. I said Jewish coalitions (I didn't say coalitions, but sue me). I'm sure Amnesty International is going to have kittens when they hear about this. There are Muslims in Amnesty International, but that doesn't matter because they aren't arguing because they are Muslim. The liberal Jews aren't arguing because they are Jews, but because they are liberal.

[ruksak]

Quote by: Zeebadee It's not terrorism to them.

Unfortunately for them, they cannot hijack the definition of a word with the same ease with which they hijack an airplane.

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: tinybear Yeah, this is the point isn't it? The mainstream view is anything but moderate. If the mainstream view is the moderate one and the fanatics are just a tiny minority, there would be no blowback, would there?

Doesn't matter if that tiny minority is extremely violent. How many fanatics does it take to kill someone really?

[tinybear]

No question of that tiny minority killing anyone. The police will see to that, wouldn't they?

Look, let's face it, folks: The fanatics are in the majority. The police don't dare touch them (in fact the police are probably with them) and the moderate Muslims are in the minority and they, understandably, wouldn't dare defend the British infidel.

[Chancellor]

Since it was not the teacher that named the teddy bear but, rather, the students, perhaps the students should be shot.

[ruksak]

Quote by: Chancellor Since it was not the teacher that named the teddy bear but, rather, the students, perhaps the students should be shot.

Yes. I was thinking just that awhile ago. I believe it is this womans white skin that is drawing ire.

When are white people gonna get this sh*t through their head. Frankly, she's asking to die for entering a Muslim nation and trying to be at all civil with a pack of animals.

It always amazes me how these people end up on the nightly news in some sketchy video, reading from piece of paper that denounces the West, with a pack of armed Islamo-fascist standing behind them.

This wouldn't have happened if they didn't try to help people that hate them.

[Arawn-ap-Hywel]

Quote by: ruksak BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Shoot UK teacher, say protesters SO....where are these "peaceful" Muslims I hear so much about? Why no outrage by these supposed "Peaceful" Muslims over the calls for this womans death?

This is a political stance by the Sudanese government as a backlash against the UK, US & UN for various sanctions imposed, because of their oppressive acts in Darfur. The western democracies have little to do in Sudan's strong islamic regime which is almost entirely sponsored by China's lust for oil.

We may only hope Gillian Gibbons retunrs back to family and friends safely.

And that other helping hands out it Sudan carefully consider their lives over those whom they are trying to help.

We whom sit back helplessly and in a state of shock could consider the human rights in the country that sponsors this group of etremists China. Yes the one's who flood the world with toys and clothes from the investement of the world global companies to satisfy our greed for cheap produce.

Check what you buy, and whether you consider the right of sports stars to prove their worth in a country that has no spark of humanity in its on leaders and enables others to proceed in atrocities through trading with them

[Matt W]

BBC NEWS | World | Africa | UK peers visit teacher in Sudan

The two members of the House of Lords travelled to Khartoum on their own initiative after private negotiation with Sudanese officials. The Foreign Office has made it clear that the peers' visit is separate to its ongoing efforts to get Mrs Gibbons freed. On Friday, Lord Ahmed's office told the BBC: "We have it from the top that Sudanese authorities will co-operate in relation to her release."

BBC NEWS | UK | British Sudanese defends teacher

Dr Hassan says everyone he knows in the British Sudanese community feels the same way as he does. "So far I haven't met somebody with a different view, either within the Islamic community or the Sudanese." He also says he feels totally accepted in this country and believes non-Muslim Britons are too sophisticated to be drawn into knee-jerk anti-Muslim feeling.

But obviously not our friends across the water, judging by this thread...

[ruksak]

He also says he feels totally accepted in this country and believes non-Muslim Britons are too sophisticated to be drawn into knee-jerk anti-Muslim feeling.

Now thats funny!

Quote by: Matt W But obviously not our friends across the water, judging by this thread...

"We're too sophisticated to be drawn into this knee-jerk anti Muslim feeling. Unlike those barbaric Americans. Care for a spot of tea ol bloke"? This coming from the same idiots that allowed militant Muslims to preach "Death to America" right there in the streets on London. Ya know, right before London exploded with terrorist bombings.

This thread is not meant to inspire anti-Muslim rhetoric. Rather, it is meant to address the lack of the same outrage Muslims point at Americans, specifically, at the insidious element of Islamo-fascism within their own ranks. This element is being consistently downplayed by the "good" Muslims as a minuscule minority. All one needs to do is take a brief gander at the goings on in Muslim states to understand this minority represents a rather large sum.

If they truly feel as though their religion is being hijacked than they should stand up and fight it. Not stand up and blame America.

[Matt W]

And also:

BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Bloggers condemn Sudan for arrest

Sudanese blogs and forums have largely condemned the arrest of British teacher Gillian Gibbons for letting her young schoolchildren name a teddy bear Muhammad. All the comments, most of them in English, defended the British teacher and many of them called for her release. Some called the whole issue "pathetic" and termed Ms Gibbons' act "an honest and innocent mistake". The media in Sudan and the Middle-East have largely ignored the case.

There is outrage....just not official, or in places where a government official can figure out who you are.

But hey, if you don't go looking for outrage, you won't find it.

[ruksak]

Quote by: Matt W And also: BBC NEWS | World | Africa | Bloggers condemn Sudan for arrest There is outrage....just not official, or in places where a government official can figure out who you are. But hey, if you don't go looking for outrage, you won't find it.

Genuine outrage makes its presence known. One should not have to hunt it down as if it were a sly fox.

It would appear to me that this UK rag is attempting to create an air of genuine outrage by citing commentary of a god damned blog. Yea, thats outrage.

If thats the best they can do is blog their disapproval, not knowing if these people are Muslim, Caucasian or "other", than I find that quite insufficient.

[Osborn F Enready]

I wonder if they would be mad that I named my "winky" Mohammed Jesus Budda?