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Old Nov 15, 2007, 12:04 pm   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Clinton pivots with Spitzer on licenses for illegal immigrants

So, Hillary just sticks her finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing before she decides what her views are?

The Buffalo News: Home: Clinton pivots with Spitzer on licenses for illegal immigrants

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Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer on Wednesday abandoned his plan for driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants, prompting Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton — who has been widely criticized for her unclear stance on the issue — to quickly follow suit and say she would would never support such a plan as president...

After a meeting with the state’s congressional delegation, Spitzer appeared in a news conference to announce his reversal, saying the federal government must pass immigration reform.

'I have concluded that New York State cannot successfully address this problem on its own...It does not take a stethoscope to hear the pulse of New Yorkers on this topic,' he said.

Meanwhile, Clinton offered her first direct statement on the issue. 'I support Gov. Spitzer’s decision today to withdraw his proposal,' the New York Democrat said. '...As president, I will not support driver’s licenses for undocumented people and will press for comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration, including border security and fixing our broken [immigration] system.'"



TOPICS FOR DEBATE:

Do Hillary's views change with the figurative direction of the wind?

Is Governor Spitzer trying to save face after being slammed by the people of New York State?

Is Hillary lying when she claims she will not support driver's licenses for illegals?

TOPIC ESPECIALLY FOR GRANDPA:

To quote Hillary: "comprehensive immigration reform that deals with all of the issues around illegal immigration, including border security and fixing our broken [immigration] system."


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Old Nov 15, 2007, 01:48 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Do Hillary's views change with the figurative direction of the wind?
Yes, and I think that should be obvious by her speeches and voting history. She is a hypocrite, and just another "bought and sold" politician with no loyalty to the Constitution.

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Is Governor Spitzer trying to save face after being slammed by the people of New York State?
Face, and trying to save his job. I think the people should still demand he be impeached, as his "loyalties" have been shown, clearly, and that loyalty does not lie with the Federal or State Constitution.

I would vote for impeachment if I lived there.

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Is Hillary lying when she claims she will not support driver's licenses for illegals?
I would say clearly, yes, based on her history as a politician who has a voting record which shows much of her ignorance and misunderstanding of the Laws of the Land.


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Old Nov 15, 2007, 05:30 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Yes, and I think that should be obvious by her speeches and voting history. She is a hypocrite, and just another "bought and sold" politician with no loyalty to the Constitution.
Her husband was often accused of basing his policies on what the polls told him. I can see where she might have learned her flip-flopping.



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Face, and trying to save his job. I think the people should still demand he be impeached, as his "loyalties" have been shown, clearly, and that loyalty does not lie with the Federal or State Constitution.

I would vote for impeachment if I lived there.
I don't think there's anything in New York's constitution to allow for this.



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I would say clearly, yes, based on her history as a politician who has a voting record which shows much of her ignorance and misunderstanding of the Laws of the Land.
Is it that she misunderstands or that she, like most of the federal government, is intent on ignoring the laws because she feels they're irrelevant to America in the 21st century? To say she merely misunderstands is to give her benefit that I'm not willing to give her.


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Old Nov 16, 2007, 11:35 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Spitzer is not a bad governor.

If you actually get into reading more about his intentions for this reform, he had a good idea.

The problem is one of giving a privilege to someone who is here with full knowledge that they are breaking laws.

Hillary is a problem because she waited until she could make it look like she's above Spitzer.


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Old Nov 16, 2007, 02:21 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Hillary is a problem because she is a windsock, whichever way the wind is blowing, there is Hillary, indicating the direction of the latest wind.


Sorry, but that does not fit with my definition of a "politician", that matches my definition of a crook.
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Old Nov 16, 2007, 02:28 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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It is obvious that Hillary changes her policies as often as she changes her clothes.

Spitzer's polls are in the cellar which explains his pandering but it was heat from Hillary that forced Spitzer to withdraw the proposal.

Hillary will do anything to get elected and lying is so very easy and common for her, she probably doesn't even think about it anymore.

Hillary is the most corrupt of the entire bunch. Who else could take campaign contributions from a convicted felon, who pretended the donations came from dishwashers and postal clerks, and when caught, didn't even return all of the money. She denied knowing Hsu was a convicted felon, but she would have to know since the secret service guards her, and they would have found out in the background check of Norman Hsu,

Here are the indictments and background I found easily on google:

http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw....su91907cmp.pdf

The guy is crooked as a dog's hind leg yet he has personal up front face time with Hillary on the campaign trail. She can deny knowing he was wanted by the authorities but she has to be lying since the Secret Service would have been informed and passed it on to her as part of their duty. She is worse than Hsu b/c she is a crook who pretends to be honest.


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Old Nov 19, 2007, 08:04 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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TOPICS FOR DEBATE:

Do Hillary's views change with the figurative direction of the wind?

Is Governor Spitzer trying to save face after being slammed by the people of New York State?

Is Hillary lying when she claims she will not support driver's licenses for illegals?
#1
You are way too smart.
Do not interrupt Hillary's objectives, please :-)

#2
Nope, not at all.
He already forgot the whole (brilliant) idea :-)

#3
Nope, not at all.
Hillary supports Anything that brings her more voters :-)

In other words :
- Hillary is a plain political imbecile.
I bet B. Spears would do the same, or better :-)
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