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Old Sep 26, 2007, 11:56 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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'150 countries more corrupt than Israel'

'150 countries more corrupt than Israel' | Jerusalem Post
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Israel is among the 30 least corrupt countries in the world, according to the 2007 Corruption Perceptions Index report, released Wednesday. The report is based on the degree to which corruption is perceived among public officials and politicians.

According to the report - which gives Israel a score of 6.1, when 1 is the score given to the most corrupt country and 10 the least - 150 countries are more corrupt than the Jewish state. The rank is an improvement of four places and the score given to Israel increased by a fifth of a point since the 2006 report.

The report ranks Myanmar and Somalia as the world's most corrupt - adding pressure to the Southeast Asian country's military regime as it faces the biggest anti-government protests in nearly two decades.

Myanmar, also known as Burma, and Somalia received the lowest score of 1.4 out of 10.

Denmark, Finland and New Zealand were ranked the least corrupt - each scoring 9.4.

"Countries torn apart by conflict pay a huge toll in their capacity to govern," the agency's international chairman Huguette Labelle said in a statement. "With public institutions crippled or nonexistent, mercenary individuals help themselves to public resources and corruption thrives."

The agency's scale is based on the perceptions of the degree of corruption by businesspeople and country analysts. Countries are ranked out of 10, and any score below 5 indicates "serious" perceived levels of corruption, while scores below 3 reflect "rampant" corruption, the agency said.
I am pretty much done with volconvo, but I need to post this to piss off all the anti-semites. you know who you are!
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Old Sep 26, 2007, 01:53 pm   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Who exactly are the anti-semites and how does one qualify for such a title? Does a critic of the Israeli government automatically match the criteria? Or rampant Jewish hating?


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Old Sep 26, 2007, 03:14 pm   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Who exactly are the anti-semites and how does one
qualify for such a title?
Does a critic of the Israeli government automatically match the
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Good question. I've been called anti-Semitic because I criticize Israel. I am not, of course.
IHowever, 'm supposed to believe Israel is a perfect angel.

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Old Sep 27, 2007, 05:54 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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Corruption is not how I judge countries, even though graft is a sorry situation.

My judgement is rendered more on their capacity for compassion.

And I think maybe Israel ranks pretty low on that index...


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Old Sep 27, 2007, 05:57 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Does a critic of the Israeli government automatically match the criteria?
No of course not but many here single out Israel.For example there was many topics here about corruption in Israel but no topic about corruption in Itally another western democracy.

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Good question. I've been called anti-Semitic because I criticize Israel. I am not, of course.
IHowever, 'm supposed to believe Israel is a perfect angel.
You was called anti-Semite because you against existence of Jewish state
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 11:18 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Now in its sixth year, this edition of the Global Corruption Report focuses on judges and courts, but situating them within the broader justice system, and looking at political, economic and societal pressures on the judiciary.
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This report is about judicial corruption
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 11:36 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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No of course not but many here single out Israel.For example there was many topics here about corruption in Israel but no topic about corruption in Itally another western democracy.
Are you telling me that the situation of Italy is similar to Israel with respect to it's current problems such as Palestine and ...well most of the Middle East?


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Old Sep 27, 2007, 11:43 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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I am pretty much done with volconvo, but I need to post this to piss off all the anti-semites. you know who you are!
Why don't you tell us who they are.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 12:17 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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Are you telling me that the situation of Italy is similar to Israel with respect to it's current problems such as Palestine and ...well most of the Middle East?
I talked about specific claims of corruption in Israel that this board was infested with.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 01:29 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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You was called anti-Semite because you against existence of
Jewish state
First of all, I'm against the existence of all states (you should know that well enough now, seeing as to how you debated me on this general topic).

Second, opposing the state of Israel is not tantamount to hating all Jews.
I also oppose Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran and Nigeria.
I don't hate literally everyone under a government I disagree with.
Your argument misses such a possibility, as do virtually all arguments in favor of nationalism.

My attacks aren't only against the Jewish state.
I oppose a "Jewish state" just like I oppose an "Islamic state," or an officially "Christian" or "white" state. And again, I oppose states in general. I've indicated as much elsewhere.

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Old Sep 27, 2007, 01:33 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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I talked about specific claims of corruption in Israel that
this board was infested with.
I can bring up another obvious point: Claims of corruption have been brought up for numerous countries on Volconvo, not just Israel. In any case, it doesn't change how Israel is essentially an apartheid state (inclduing how Israel was a player with South Africa's apartheid system).

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Old Sep 27, 2007, 01:40 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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First of all, I'm against the existence of all states (you should know that well enough now, seeing as to how you debated me on this general topic).
But I see in most of you posts and topics that you created are against Israel and not against any other state.
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Second, opposing the state of Israel is not tantamount to hating all Jews.
Of course it is. Jewish state was created as a safe haven to Jews after 2000 years of prosecutions. If Jews had their own state along the history they could flee to it.

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I also oppose Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran and Nigeria.
I don't hate literally everyone under a government I disagree with.
Your argument misses such a possibility, as do virtually all arguments in favor of nationalism
My attacks aren't only against the Jewish state.
I oppose a "Jewish state" just like I oppose an "Islamic state," or an officially "Christian" or "white" state. And again, I oppose states in general. I've indicated as much elsewhere.
Yes we already heard about you pipe dream but in real world Jews are prosecuted but now there someone that can protect them. Many Jews were gullible enough to believe in this bullshit and what they got Hitler and Stalin that wanted to eradicate Jewish people and culture.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 01:44 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Claims of corruption have been brought up for numerous countries on Volconvo,
Ok .How many threads were created about corruption in Israel and how many in Italy. The situation there is much worse that in Israel.
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In any case, it doesn't change how Israel is essentially an apartheid state
He we see example of vile propaganda against a Jewish state just because it Jewish.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 01:53 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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But I see in most of you posts and topics
that you created are against Israel and not against any
other state.
No, you apparently just have a "criticize Israel" radar, that's all. I spend plenty of time criticizing other states (or states in general). But I don't think the responsibility is mine to let Israel off the hook. If Volconvo literally was only against Israel, I might still post here occasionally, because Israel deserves criticism (as does the United States, as does Nigeria, France or Britain).

I spend a considerable amount of time addressing capitalism and general tendencies taking us (the general population under a global economy) into a police state.

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Old Sep 27, 2007, 02:02 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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How many threads were created about corruption in Israel and
how many in Italy.
The situation there is much worse that in Israel.
Well, I'm not the wizard of Volconvo, controlling every thread people start.
Perhaps there is such anger over the Middle East that it dwarfs other topics?

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He we see example of vile propaganda against a Jewish
state just because it Jewish.
You're lying here.
My statement was not against Jews in general.

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Old Sep 27, 2007, 02:06 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Well, I'm not the wizard of Volconvo, controlling every thread people start.
Perhaps there is such anger over the Middle East that it dwarfs other topics?
Yes people single out Israel.But no really care about other conflicts around the world.
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You're lying here.
My statement was not against Jews in general.
Did I said it was against Jews?I said it was against Jewist just becouse it Jewish.
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Old Sep 27, 2007, 02:12 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Yes people single out Israel.
But no really care about other conflicts around the world.
Well, I just commented on the Burmese decision to impose martial law on its citizens, so I don't focus every bit of attention on Israel.

I've also criticized Iran, quite harshly. If you don't believe me, go ahead and do a search. I'm sure I've also criticized countries in South America.

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Old Sep 28, 2007, 11:13 am   #18 (permalink) (top)
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More Food for Thought for the Volconvo Anti-semites!

You know who you are! More FFT!

Freedom House: Iran increasingly corrupt | Jerusalem Post

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Freedom House: Iran increasingly corrupt

Iran's governance has worsened in the past two years under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's administration, according to a report released Thursday by monitoring group Freedom House.

Iranians voting. "Iranians are extremely frustrated with [Ahmadinejad's] regime."

"Countries at the Crossroads," an annual survey of government performance in 30 strategically important countries worldwide, showed a decline in Iran's democratic character since 2005.

Political interference in the judicial system has intensified, cronyism has become more pervasive and violations of civil liberties have increased, according to the report.

"While the world has been outraged by the recent brutal treatment of Iranian Americans visiting family in Iran, two of whom are still held hostage by the Iranian regime, the Iranian government's actions have also shown an increased disregard for ordinary citizens living in the country," said Freedom House executive director Jennifer Windsor.

"The regime increasingly tramples individual rights and puts the state at the service of an elite that is dominated by senior clerics and the Revolutionary Guard."

Corruption is rife in Iran and the State Audit Court has revealed numerous cases of embezzlement from state agencies, the report said, citing $6 billion in oil revenues that was never deposited in the national treasury last year.

Despite Ahmadinejad's promise to eliminate cronyism, he has been openly accused of giving numerous government positions to friends and relatives, read the report.

Members of the Revolutionary Guard are gaining preferential access to state assets, apparently through their connections to Ahmadinejad's administration, the report continued, citing multi-billion dollar contracts won without competitive bidding.

Meanwhile, the government has tightened restrictions on free expression and assembly, as evidenced in recent crackdowns on student and labor union leaders and on activists campaigning for women's rights, read the report. It has also continued to shut down reformist newspapers and to threaten or imprison journalists who criticize the regime, the report said.

"Increased repression is taking place against the backdrop of Ahmadinejad's failure to deliver on his promises to curb corruption and to improve the living standards of ordinary Iranians," said Daniel Calingaert, deputy director of programs at Freedom House. "As we can see on the Internet, where there still is some room for free expression, Iranians are extremely frustrated with the regime."

"Countries at the Crossroads" provides a comparative evaluation of government performance in four touchstone areas of democratic governance: accountability and public voice, civil liberties, rule of law and anticorruption and transparency. These areas of performance are examined in 30 countries that are at a critical crossroads in determining their political future.

Freedom House has been monitoring political rights and civil liberties in Iran since 1972.
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Old Sep 28, 2007, 11:32 am   #19 (permalink) (top)
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Why don't you answer this question?

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Old Sep 28, 2007, 11:38 am   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Who exactly are the anti-semites and how does one qualify for such a title? Does a critic of the Israeli government automatically match the criteria? Or rampant Jewish hating?
Well I already answered this. Does my answer is not good enough for you?
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