Rushdie knighthood 'justifies suicide attacks'

[shrike]

Rushdie knighthood 'justifies suicide attacks'

Britain's knighthood of Salman Rushdie justifies suicide bomb attacks by Muslims, a Pakistani minister has said. The bestowment of the honour upon the controversial author has already attracted the condemnation of Iran, and Pakistan has now also "deplored" the decision. Pakistan's religious affairs minister Ejaz-ul-Haq told the south Asian country's national assembly: "The west always wonders about the root cause of terrorism. Such actions are the root cause of it. "If someone commits suicide bombing to protect the honour of the Prophet Muhammad, his act is justified," he said according to a Reuters news agency translation.

Muslim fanatics use every excuse to justify suicide bombing against civilians

[Praxius]

Quote by: shrike Muslim fanatics use every excuse to justify suicide bombing against civilians

Yet there's very little outcry from you guys from air striking schools and mosques in Afghanistan which kill civilians..... when it comes to this situation, they're called "Collateral" ~ A nice way of re-wording the same end result.

[shrike]

Yet there's very little outcry from you guys from air striking schools and mosques in Afghanistan which kill civilians..... when it comes to this situation, they're called "Collateral" ~ A nice way of re-wording the same end result.

Please no red herrings the topic is about suicide bombings and sulman rushdie as a justification. It has nothing to do with actions of NATO in Afghanistan

[Mr. Jinx]

Quote by: Praxius Yet there's very little outcry from you guys from air striking schools and mosques in Afghanistan which kill civilians..... when it comes to this situation, they're called "Collateral" ~ A nice way of re-wording the same end result.

Collateral damages and specificly targetting civilians are 2 separate animals. But that is really not that topic. The topic is justifying suicide bombings or terrorism.

I believe his anger is misplaced.

[Praxius]

Quote by: shrike Please no red herrings the topic is about suicide bombings and sulman rushdie as a justification. It has nothing to do with actions of NATO in Afghanistan

Sorry, I wasn't referring towards NATO, I was refering specifically towards the US forces within NATO, seeing's how they have the long history in the last year or so of the most civillian casualties.

But anywho.... let me get this straight.... because I believe I misunderstood what the original reasons for knighting this guy was:

He wrote a few things that were negative towards Islam (mainly towards suicide bombers?) So the Muslims are now complaining because he's getting knighted?

Ok yeah I see your side in this about them being all pissy about this guy.... at first I thought he was being kighted for the promotion of suicide bombings..... which didn't make much sense to me......

Quite honestly.... Muslims being pissy about this is pretty hypocritical if you ask me.....

They'd be bitching all the time if we started telling them what to say and do.... so how about they mind their own dam business and worry about something important for a change, besides cartoons and foolish things.

[jose]

Is there a difference between suicide bombings and homocide bombings?

[Captain Cardio]

Is there a difference between suicide bombings and homocide bombings?

A level of commitment and belief in the purpose of the explosion?

[Chris the Chees]

Quote by: shrike Please no red herrings the topic is about suicide bombings and sulman rushdie as a justification. It has nothing to do with actions of NATO in Afghanistan

Agreed, lets keep this discussion on topic.

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[jose]

Quote by: Captain Cardio A level of commitment and belief in the purpose of the explosion?

but not much difference in the outcome

[tinybear]

Muslims who advocate this sort of thing are commonly referred as fanatics, fundamentalists...etc. to stress the fact that they are probably loonies who don't know what they're saying and whose comments will not be heeded by the vast majority of peace-loving Muslims. But how true is this? The man is a member of the Pakistani cabinet!!!

[Mia]

After reading the book Infidel, I feel I have a better understanding of Islam. Everyday people believe these things. She herself agreed with the fatwa against him, she didn't give it a second thought based on what she was taught growing up.

1/3 of Muslims (under 30) in the US believe it's permissible to suicide bomb under certain circumstances. Are 1/3 of the young US Muslims fanatics? If so, we have big problems.

[brien]

The bigger qustion here is why the Queen is doing this in light of the expected outcry from the Muslim Community? Is it really important for Rushdie to be knighted over his book? Didn't the book sales confirm his success? Furthermore, Rushdie doesn't have to accept this Knighthood, does he? David Bowie refused it.

Bowie refuses knighthood

DAVID BOWIE says he refuses to accept a knighthood from the Queen - unlike his pal Sir Mick Jagger. He hinted that the Palace had already offered him a New Year's honour but he turned it down because he believes the gongs are a waste of time. Asked if he had been approached, he says: "Might have." But he adds: "I would never have any intention of accepting anything like that. I seriously don't know what it's for. It's not what I spent my life working for

So in light of all of the controversy, and the silliness of the Knighthood, why bother stirring up the Islamic fanatics?

One can say, well if the Islamic Fanatics don't like it, tough nails, "like it or lump it." I guess on one level this works for some people.

But what this boils down to is this:

The Queen is caught up in pomp and circumstance, and shares it with whomever is left that will accept it.

The Islamic fanatics look for every little reason to unleash their idiot fatwahs against whomever is their target du jour.

Moderate Muslims will ignore the "insult" and radical Islamists will merely continue their call for Rushdie's head

Rushdie will use the opportunity to thumb his nose at Muslims once again.

Does this mean Rushdie shouldn't have written the book? By no means, not at all. But he already is the recipient of Muslin anger, so why pour salt into the open wound? Is this Rushdie's way of giving the Radical Islamic world the middle finger? Perhaps this is the reason he will accept.

So what is accomplished?

The queen futhers her agenda of pomp and cicumstance.

Rushdie get more international accolades.

Islamic Radicals can make more threats and get more attention.

Seems like a win/win/win to me.

[tinybear]

This has nothing to do with the Queen, you know. She has to act on the recommendation of the PM, in this case, Tony Blair.

[brien]

Quote by: tinybear This has nothing to do with the Queen, you know. She has to act on the recommendation of the PM, in this case, Tony Blair.

Ok But doesn't she actually Knight the person? So how can it have "nothing to do with the Queen"? It seems to me a "Knighthood", and correct me if I am wrong, is a designation by the Monarchy, is it not?

[shrike]

The bigger qustion here is why the Queen is doing this in light of the expected outcry from the Muslim Community? Is it really important for Rushdie to be knighted over his book? Didn't the book sales confirm his success? Furthermore, Rushdie doesn't have to accept this Knighthood, does he? David Bowie refused it

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So what you say we should see quite and do nothing that may cause some outcry among some fundamentalists? I say we should jump to the sea that for sure will solve all the problems

[tinybear]

Quote by: brien Ok But doesn't she actually Knight the person? So how can it have "nothing to do with the Queen"? It seems to me a "Knighthood", and correct me if I am wrong, is a designation by the Monarchy, is it not?

I mean the actual decision on who gets the knighthood is not the Queen's business.

[brien]

Quote by: shrike . So what you say we should see quite and do nothing that may cause some outcry among some fundamentalists? I say we should jump to the sea that for sure will solve all the problems

Huh?? Show me where I wrote this please. I think you misunderstand my post. Try reading it again with particular note to the last line.

[rmnunez]

How this was received, particularly in Iran, makes me wonder about the intelligence of those advocating places like that have nukes.

[Arawn-ap-Hywel]

consider people,
traditionaly if a knight of the realm was killed, then it would be a legitmate reason to call too arms and go to war against those who had committed treason

one wonders, the games our politicians play ....

[tinybear]

Quote by: Arawn-ap-Hywel consider people, traditionaly if a knight of the realm was killed, then it would be a legitmate reason to call too arms and go to war against those who had committed treason one wonders, the games our politicians play ....

Wow! No kidding? So if Iran carries out the fatwa.....