Congressman Jefferson Indicted on Bribery Charges

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Thats funny, you see the finger pointing rhoutine as a positive thing thing, and I see it as the means by which they divert attention, and accountabiliity.

And if only one group is doing the finger pointing than it diverts attention and accountability. When both do it to each other all of the flaws of both groups are exposed.

[Osborn F Enready]

Vic said: I don't see a "revolt", revolts don't come from people driving cars, eating well and have a TV in their living rooms. Sorry doesn't happen.

Really?!?

What do you consider a revolt?

Vic said: This revolt will be from th voters as a whole (mostly middle class) sick of the elitism and corruption of Washington and doing something about it. that something will come when a viable 3rd party, with a strong broad message and the right leadership. Nature abhors a vacuum, and both parties are creating that.

I agree about the vaccuum, but there are already viable, valid, creditable third parties.

Vic said: I think the difference between you and I is fundamentally you're a fatalist that see the negative first, and I'm an optimist.

Vic, when there is as much negative as their is today in government from local to national, media to blogs, all but the most faith based optimists have become fatalists.....

What good is it to observe the pretty blue water as your being flushed down the toilet? Not much optimistic value in that.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Chaossaber314 And if only one group is doing the finger pointing than it diverts attention and accountability.

Well then, perhaps you would care to elaborate on who is following up on all the finger pointing routin accusations, and holding these people accountable?


Whoever it is, I'm sure not seeing it. Sure, it gets a little blather in the press, but what purpose does that truly serve if nobody is following up on the story, or demanding accountability?

Quote by: Chaossaber314 When both do it to each other all of the flaws of both groups are exposed.

Sure, which is why I have a boat load of accusations from the exposed lies which people here attempt to refute because nothing ever becomes of them.


What you are witnessing here is the press trying to drag everybody into the same hoppeless quagmire where they all get to air their grievances, but nothing ever becomes of them.

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: Osborn F Enready What good is it to observe the pretty blue water as your being flushed down the toilet? Not much optimistic value in that.

Heh, thank you. Not what I would have said, but it paints a similar picture.


I guess it is just our fatalistic views that allow us to see only the tiny negative effects of criminal government, and non-representation. :rolleyes: