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Old May 28, 2007, 02:36 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Creationist museum brings dinosaurs on board Noah’s Ark

Creationist museum brings dinosaurs on board Noah’s Ark-Arts & Entertainment-Visual Arts-TimesOnline
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A vegetarian Tyrannosaurus rex frolicked alongside human beings only a few thousand years ago in the Garden of Eden until Eve decided to munch on that apple, according to the Creation Museum, which opens in Kentucky today.

Ye gods how sad
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Old May 28, 2007, 08:48 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Sad? Oh, I disagree; this part is utterly amusing:
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The $27 million (£14 million) exhibition is funded by evangelical Christians, who apparently believe that by reclaiming dinosaurs and fossils for their literal biblical interpretation of natural history, teenagers are less likely to look at internet pornography or get pregnant out of wedlock.
And so's this:

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The museum has a series of rooms depicting the darkening of a world that abandons a literal interpretation of the Bible. Two teenagers, apparently indoctrinated with evolutionary teaching, are shown at home. The girl is talking to Planned Parenthood and the boy is looking at pornography on a computer. These images culminate in a wrecking ball, labelled with the words “millions of years”, smashing down a church.
And would you like a little racist sauce on your stupidity?

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In one exhibit two palaeontologists – a light-skinned creationist and a dark-skinned evolutionist – are shown digging up a dinosaur skeleton and, of course, reach different interpretations. The message is that it is OK, even scientific, to defy evolution.

Here's the sad part: that this museum is now part of the United States's reputation across the world. That this, now, is one of the ways that people judge us -- and they find us wanting.

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I find it quite staggering, and saddening, that so many supposedly educated and intellectual people can cling to such a naive and frankly, dangerous view. Even to the sickening level of Presidential candidates jumping on to the creationist vote bandwaggon.

Is this Christian fundamentalist evangelical zeal any less dangerous than fundamentalist Islam? I think not. Watch carefully who throws the stones here!!

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Nut cases pure and simple! And yet these people are gaining influence in society! Why? All around we are seeing a breakdown in human higher logic with creationism and also with AGW (anthropogenic global warming)! The facts be damned, the truth ignored, common sense abandoned! more and more people falling prey to propaganda and media driven hype! where will it end? when even scientists are falling victim to "mob stupidity" I despair at our modern society and I despair at our ignorance.

Here in the United States we might think, "Oh, well, it's Kentucky." Everywhere else in the world, effectively, they think "That's how the U.S. thinks of evolution." So now I, too, am a creationist in the eyes of the world. Thanks, Christians.


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Old May 28, 2007, 08:49 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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From your source, Arawn:
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Opinion polls show consistently that half of Americans believe that humans did not evolve but were created, along with all living creatures, by God 6,000 to 10,000 years ago.
Some very unscientific minds in America...

But then we knew that from people's gullibility regarding 9/11...
Fire-induced free-fall collapses of steel-framed buildings, snicker...


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Old May 28, 2007, 01:53 pm   #4 (permalink) (top)
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IN the Geneological Library in Salt Lake City, there is a beautiful mural of Jesus sitting with children of every color at his feet. Jesus is a blond haired, blue eyed white man.

When I asked the lady at the desk WHY jesus was portrayed as white when obviously he was born in the middle east, she said,

"Oh, that's his PERFECT body in heaven".

Mormans racist? Say it isn't so.


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Old May 28, 2007, 01:55 pm   #5 (permalink) (top)
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From your source, Arawn:

Some very unscientific minds in America...

But then we knew that from people's gullibility regarding 9/11...
Fire-induced free-fall collapses of steel-framed buildings, snicker...

You mean the government nay have LIED about 9-11?

NO WAY!!!!


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Old May 28, 2007, 02:31 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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Amusing? Pathetic? Whatever -- it's a further sign of America's decline.


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Old May 28, 2007, 02:51 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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Ken Ham, the Australian-born founder of Answers in Genesis, believes that the battle for minds should be fought among the very young because of children’s fascination with dinosaurs.
Another war? This time with young minds. Very scary indeed!


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Old May 28, 2007, 03:16 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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Between this and Scientology, we must look like a nation of kooks to the rest of the world. Thank goodness we can offer the Jerry Springer show as evidence of our sophistication and intelligence.


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Old May 28, 2007, 10:52 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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You know what? I just decided to watch that on the news, just a few mins ago....

And I heard all that info you all quoted above.....


CTV.ca | Bible-based creation museum has dinosaurs

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"We wanted to show people there's no mystery with dinosaurs, we can explain them," said Ken Ham, founder of the Answers in Genesis Ministry.

The non-profit group created the US$27 million Creation Museum near Cincinnati.

The dinosaur exhibit is at odds with scientists who say that the massive lizards existed tens of millions of years before man.

In the literal interpretation of the Bible, however, dinosaurs were created by God at the same time as all the other animals just a few thousand years ago.
So tell me how they explain the aging in the bones?

What, did time go really really fast back then and then all of a sudden slow down?

Did God spin us like a basketball for shits and giggles and then stopped us?

Stopped us so fast that all those Dinosaurs who had no fingers and lived in caves with Jesus, flew into the sky never to be seen again?

And then all us cave Eden people buried them..... and then a few years later we dug them back up and guessed at what they were and so one group guessed evolution while he was a cave man, and the other guy said God? And then that's where the separation came from?

So.... let me guess.... if they both figured out their own thing at the same time.... then how does the god guy still prove anything over the evolution guy?

And another thing..... why did it take them so dam long to present this evidence now? What.... was the Evolution Devil holding them at bay or something?

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The museum contains fossils, but Ham said most were created by the massive flood described in the book of Genesis.

"They can believe whatever they want to believe about when dinosaurs were created and when humans were created," said Jeffrey McKee, an anthropologist at Ohio State University.

"The fact is that dinosaurs went extinct long before humans were around."

Ham is originally from Australia and began developing the idea of a creationist museum in the early 1990s.

Donations have been sufficient to allow the museum to open debt-free.

"Christians across this nation see this place as a rallying point," Ham said. They "recognize that we live in a culture that no longer believes the Bible is true."
Gee I don't know why? Maybe because people started to think for themselves for once? Perhaps people........ oh jeez... why am I even bothering..... cripes this is sad.....

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Here in the United States we might think, "Oh, well, it's Kentucky." Everywhere else in the world, effectively, they think "That's how the U.S. thinks of evolution." So now I, too, am a creationist in the eyes of the world. Thanks, Christians.
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Opinion polls show consistently that half of Americans believe that humans did not evolve but were created, along with all living creatures, by God 6,000 to 10,000 years ago.
Dude..... that's a lot of inbreeding..... I'm sorry.... wait wait... I retract that..... Dude..... like...... Dude...... Holy Crap..... Holy Cow..... Holy..... Dude....

I figured there might be like 1/3 or somthing..... maybe a quarter of your population..... But What?

Oh man..... suddenly I feel very uneasy..... suddenly I'm starting to fear the Christians with their access to a lot of Nuclear Bombs.....

...... Dude.... and their right down below me too...... I can see them through the floor man! They're looking at me..... those crazy Bible Dino People.... They're ...... whoa..... the Dino is passing me back the pipe and telling me to take another hit...... whoa.... even in the garden of Eden the Dinos can talk..... Dude I'm tripping....

Nuclear Bomb Gods With Dinosaurs Reading Bibles.....

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Old May 29, 2007, 02:31 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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It is exhibits like this that may hasten the decline of such an agneda that ignores proven science. Hope so.


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Old May 29, 2007, 05:13 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Just another case of Creationists adapting the facts to fit their silly superstions.

In Utah I was told that God put the dinasaur bones there to " test our faith".


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Old May 29, 2007, 10:02 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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The non-profit group created the US$27 million Creation Museum near Cincinnati.
Think of all the truly worthwhile and productive things that could have been accomplished with that money.


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Old May 29, 2007, 10:37 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Reason is giving way to mysticism??? Have you investigated the museum's claims at all? There is scientific evidence that backs up their claims. Evolutionary theory is far from perfect and far from scientific. It has never been observed (a species evolving into another) and the fossil record really doesn't support it. There are unfossilized dinosaur bones and there are no transitional fossils. If things evolved over millions of years, you'd think that many of the fossils would be transitional, wouldn't you? What bothers me is that people are dismissing the creationist claims without investigating the claims. The creationists are not nutcases; they see the scientific evidence and draw their conclusions from it. The fact that the evidence is backed up by the bible is a BONUS. I may be wrong but people seem to be missing that fact. They seem to think that creationists are merely basing all their claims on the bible with absolutely no scientific evidence to support it.

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Reason is giving way to mysticism?
Have you investigated the museum's claims? They have taken scientific evidence and drawn logical conclusions from it. The fact that the bible backs it up is a BONUS. It's like doing a crossword puzzle while having the answer key. You can logically fill in the answers but can be assured that you're right because you have the answer key to back you up. My point is that they haven't taken the answer key to do the puzzle; but rather that they have done the puzzle and checked their answers (with the bible).
Which specific conclusions based on scientific evidence are you finding ridiculous? Have you seen the evidence?
Where is the evolutionary evidence for a species evolving into another species? There are absolutely NO transitionary fossils in existence. You'd think there'd be a lot if the process took millions of years, wouldn't you? Evolutionary theory is a theory with many unanswered questions. I don't think it should be considered fact.

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It's very humorous that evolutionists, who only go back several decades, and who's teachings are entirely theory, can squawk so loudly about the world's oldest archeologically verifiable historical record available to humanity--the Bible. Okay, disprove with archeologically based facts and evidence that what Ken Ham says is false. Don't ramble on with this garblygook about fairytales and contradictions. It's threatning, plain and simple. Insecurity always belittles what it can't deny or disprove.

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Creationism is not such the unresasonable and illogical proposition it is argued. How many non-Creationists, if ruthlessly honest with themselves, would not permit some room for wonder, about our existence.
The apostle Paul says that "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities- His eternal power and divine nature- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse." Romans 1:18-120
Just looking in the mirror reveals the very imprint of our Creator, as does the sublime beauty and perfect interconnectedness of natures design. Creationism does not imply a rejection of reason; rather the proper conclusion of reason is Creationsim.

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So funny
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Old May 29, 2007, 10:37 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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Think of all the truly worthwhile and productive things that could have been accomplished with that money.
I'm sure the Katrina victims, and that little town in Kansas could have put it to good use.

So much for "Christian" values. (I know not all Christians are like that)


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Old May 29, 2007, 10:39 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Reason is giving way to mysticism??? Have you investigated the museum's claims at all? There is scientific evidence that backs up their claims. Evolutionary theory is far from perfect and far from scientific. It has never been observed (a species evolving into another) and the fossil record really doesn't support it. There are unfossilized dinosaur bones and there are no transitional fossils. If things evolved over millions of years, you'd think that many of the fossils would be transitional, wouldn't you? What bothers me is that people are dismissing the creationist claims without investigating the claims. The creationists are not nutcases; they see the scientific evidence and draw their conclusions from it. The fact that the evidence is backed up by the bible is a BONUS. I may be wrong but people seem to be missing that fact. They seem to think that creationists are merely basing all their claims on the bible with absolutely no scientific evidence to support it.

Michelle, Windsor, Canada
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Reason is giving way to mysticism?
Have you investigated the museum's claims? They have taken scientific evidence and drawn logical conclusions from it. The fact that the bible backs it up is a BONUS. It's like doing a crossword puzzle while having the answer key. You can logically fill in the answers but can be assured that you're right because you have the answer key to back you up. My point is that they haven't taken the answer key to do the puzzle; but rather that they have done the puzzle and checked their answers (with the bible).
Which specific conclusions based on scientific evidence are you finding ridiculous? Have you seen the evidence?
Where is the evolutionary evidence for a species evolving into another species? There are absolutely NO transitionary fossils in existence. You'd think there'd be a lot if the process took millions of years, wouldn't you? Evolutionary theory is a theory with many unanswered questions. I don't think it should be considered fact.

MistyMich, Windsor, Canada
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It's very humorous that evolutionists, who only go back several decades, and who's teachings are entirely theory, can squawk so loudly about the world's oldest archeologically verifiable historical record available to humanity--the Bible. Okay, disprove with archeologically based facts and evidence that what Ken Ham says is false. Don't ramble on with this garblygook about fairytales and contradictions. It's threatning, plain and simple. Insecurity always belittles what it can't deny or disprove.

MP, Jalapa, Guatemala

Please don't confuse beliefs with facts

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Creationism is not such the unresasonable and illogical proposition it is argued. How many non-Creationists, if ruthlessly honest with themselves, would not permit some room for wonder, about our existence.
The apostle Paul says that "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities- His eternal power and divine nature- have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse." Romans 1:18-120
Just looking in the mirror reveals the very imprint of our Creator, as does the sublime beauty and perfect interconnectedness of natures design. Creationism does not imply a rejection of reason; rather the proper conclusion of reason is Creationsim.

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So funny
No one witnessed God building the universe in 6 days either, yet you have no problem with that eh?

There are many MANY bits of evidence for evolution. Fossil records, DNA evidence, genetic similarities, etc.

Got ANY evidence for creation, other than a book of questionable authorship?

Give me something I can observe and measure, against myth and legend anyday.


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Old May 29, 2007, 10:45 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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Think of all the truly worthwhile and productive things that could have been accomplished with that money.
Actually a lot of people are saying that..... funny thing is... it's probably from all those church donations....
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No one witnessed God building the universe in 6 days either, yet you have no problem with that eh?

There are many MANY bits of evidence for evolution. Fossil records, DNA evidence, genetic similarities, etc.

Got ANY evidence for creation, other than a book of questionable authorship?

Give me something I can observe and measure, against myth and legend anyday.
I was making fun of creationists. I believe in evoulution. I was just saying these comments on the creation site are very funny.
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Okay children line up and take a tour with me through the musem, mouse click each number on the map for a image of the display (enlarge the image if you wish). Number 17 has lots of gore and so you will really like that one.

Creation Museum | Walk-through

Gee, nearly 4000 people visited the Creationist Musem the first day it opened.

Over 4000 at Creation Museum first day at Around the World with AiG’s Ken Ham

More research is needed?

UFOs in the Old Testament

But all kidding aside... I got the proof, here are some real prehistoric relics dug up in Centrial America by real research scientists. This is not a joke. They even made a TV film about this discovery. So I ask you "how could ancient native tribes know what a dinosaur would look like before our modern musems discovered the prehistoric bones for reconstruction"? The relics clearly show humans and dinos together. See link below

World Mysteries - Parallel World - Gods, Humans and Dinosaurs living together, by Rich Anders

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I was making fun of creationists. I believe in evoulution. I was just saying these comments on the creation site are very funny.

I got it. The wheels grind slowly but I get there in the end.


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Okay children line up and take a tour with me through the musem, mouse click each number on the map for a image of the display (enlarge the image if you wish). Number 17 has lots of gore and so you will really like that one.

Creation Museum | Walk-through

Gee, nearly 4000 people visited the Creationist Musem the first day it opened.

Over 4000 at Creation Museum first day at Around the World with AiG’s Ken Ham

More research is needed?

UFOs in the Old Testament

But all kidding aside... I got the proof, here are some real prehistoric relics dug up in Centrial America by real research scientists. This is not a joke. They even made a TV film about this discovery. So I ask you "how could ancient native tribes know what a dinosaur would look like before our modern musems discovered the prehistoric bones for reconstruction"? The relics clearly show humans and dinos together. See link below

World Mysteries - Parallel World - Gods, Humans and Dinosaurs living together, by Rich Anders

Read "Chariots of the Gods" by Erich Von Daniken. This stuff fascinated mewhen I was in high school.


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