Iran threatens 'illegal' nuke work

[miaboy0322]

ok i can't give you evidence about japan but the Iran subject I can control points are set up around cities in Iraq these control points are set up to see what is going into the cities the problem isn't what is in the cities it is what is coming the war over there is not fighting against America it is fighting against Iraq a religious war i really can't go into facts with you on this website but if u reply i will let you know what i have experienced

[fushigi]

Quote by: miaboy0322 ok i can't give you evidence about japan but the Iran subject I can control points are set up around cities in Iraq these control points are set up to see what is going into the cities the problem isn't what is in the cities it is what is coming the war over there is not fighting against America it is fighting against Iraq a religious war i really can't go into facts with you on this website but if u reply i will let you know what i have experienced

You can personal message (PM) me or any user. Just click on my user name.

[jose]

Quote by: miaboy0322 Do Japan recently used a satellite to shot down a missile.!!!

no china used a missile :rolleyes: to shoot down a satellite
which was a signal to the US that your GPS system ( which guides your tomahawks etc ) ¨are all belong to us¨

[fushigi]

Quote by: jose no china used a missile :rolleyes: to shoot down a satellite

Source please?

Quote by: jose which was a signal to the US that your GPS system ( which guides your tomahawks etc ) ¨are all belong to us¨

This has been an open secret for years. Clinton signed a waiver in the '90s to sell that ballistic missile guidance technology to China.

[bishop]

iran was going to proceed with their nuclear project regardless of the passage of u.n. sanctions. i think anyone who doesn't believe that must be living in fantasyland.

i wouldn't support a war, but i do like the sound of these sanctions.

Ahmadinejad rejects U.N. sanctions - CNN.com

The new measures follow a resolution adopted December 23, 2006, that prohibits trade with Iran in nuclear materials and ballistic missiles and froze assets of individuals and institutions involved in Tehran's atomic programs. The embargo on Iranian weapons exports -- such as small arms and explosives -- is an attempt to stop Iran from smuggling to militant groups like Hezbollah in Lebanon, and to prevent Iranian arms from reaching Iraq, U.S. officials contend. The new resolution would bar nations and international banks from making new loans to Iran. The proposed new penalties build on previous sanctions barring transfer of nuclear materials and know-how to Iran. The latest sanctions, formulated last week by the five permanent members of the council -- the United States, China, Russia, Britain and France -- plus Germany, would freeze the assets of 28 additional individuals and organizations involved in Iran's nuclear and missile programs. About a third of those are linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, an elite military corps. The resolution also calls for a voluntary travel embargo on Iranian officials and Revolutionary Guard commanders.

[GHook93]

Quote by: bishop iran was going to proceed with their nuclear project regardless of the passage of u.n. sanctions. i think anyone who doesn't believe that must be living in fantasyland. i wouldn't support a war, but i do like the sound of these sanctions. Ahmadinejad rejects U.N. sanctions - CNN.com

Sanctions supported fully by Russia, China and the U.N. is by far the right course. Ahmadinejad is losing his popularity in his country. Hopefully that can lay the stage for a moderate to take over.

[bishop]

ahmad is hardly popular in his own country - to the point where the iranian parliment has taken measures to shorten his tenure.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...335628,00.html

The Iranian parliament voted on Sunday to unite the presidential elections with the upcoming parliamentary ones, this according to the official Iranian news agency. The proposal, which passed with a surprising 80 percent majority, may cut the term of sitting President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by 18 months.

ahmad's chief political rival has different ideas of how he should be conducting the country's foreign policy..

Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rafsanjani advocated a free market economy. With the state's coffers full, Rafsanjani pursued an economic liberalisation policy.[7] Rafsanjani's support for a deal with America over Iran's nuclear programme and his free-market economic policies contrasted with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his allies, who advocate showing the West no quarter while pursuing a course of budget-busting state handouts in the face of repeated warnings of future economic problems.[8]

these sanctions may very well do exactly what you suggest - lay the stage for a moderate to take over.

[fushigi]

Quote by: bishop these sanctions may very well do exactly what you suggest - lay the stage for a moderate to take over.

Great, then the GOP can claim it was all due to the success of a tough foreign policy and the war on terror, just like they did with Gaddafi and Lybia.

[fushigi]

The new resolution would bar nations and international banks from making new loans to Iran.

Question: would that be any loans of any kind?

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: fushigi Great, then the GOP can claim it was all due to the success of a tough foreign policy and the war on terror, just like they did with Gaddafi and Lybia.

Meh, it's not just a GOP thing, it's a politician thing. Anything good happens during a political tenure and it's inherently linked to the politicians in power or at least they will inevitably take credit for it anyway.

[fushigi]

Quote by: Chaossaber314 Meh, it's not just a GOP thing, it's a politician thing. Anything good happens during a political tenure and it's inherently linked to the politicians in power or at least they will inevitably take credit for it anyway.

Good point. Like how Republicans take credit for the economic prosperity during the Clinton era by claiming Reagan- and Bush-era tax breaks were the real driving force behind it.

[Chaossaber314]

Quote by: fushigi Good point. Like how Republicans take credit for the economic prosperity during the Clinton era by claiming Reagan- and Bush-era tax breaks were the real driving force behind it.

Indeed. If it works it's because of you. If it doesn't it's because of the other guy.

[Sugar]

Well Iran is out to do a stupid action just in the name of national pride when it has a long way to go to impove the life style and well being in the country. No doubt it has plenty of OIL dollars but if it risks war, the economy may be shattered and gone as was the case with Iraq.

[medi]

Quote by: GHook93 Sanctions supported fully by Russia, China and the U.N. is by far the right course. Ahmadinejad is losing his popularity in his country. Hopefully that can lay the stage for a moderate to take over.

The Big 5 must use their combined power to ensure that Theran falls in line with the UN mandate of disarmament and allows UN inspectors to complete their jobs.

[deepk]

Whatever Iran is threatening, it is capable of doing it also. With such fanatics heading the government, the West must be very cautious in dealing with Iran. Iran is not a walkover as was Iraq.

[Sugar]

I agree that Iran is not a walkover as Iraq, but will the US take such and action of attacking Iran. It has already burnt its fingers in the Afghanistan and Iraq war.

[nmspl]

Have you forgoten the fate of Saddam and his pack of cards? With the kinf of firepower US and the allies have, Iran and its allies could be wiped off from the face of the earth BUT will the allies allow US to do such thing???????

[GHook93]

Quote by: deepk Whatever Iran is threatening, it is capable of doing it also. With such fanatics heading the government, the West must be very cautious in dealing with Iran. Iran is not a walkover as was Iraq.

I believe even the heads of Iran still know that a nuclear war with Israel or the USA is suicide for Iran. Every country is capable, but that doesn't mean that they will come close to using doing it.

[Sugar]

I agree that internally Iran is scared of the US fire power after the Iraq war but owing to its national pride is not able to accept it in public.

[GHook93]

Quote by: bishop ahmad's chief political rival has different ideas of how he should be conducting the country's foreign policy.. Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia these sanctions may very well do exactly what you suggest - lay the stage for a moderate to take over.

I like this guy. If Iran gets a good leader, do you thing the stubborn arses in Washington will meet with him?