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Jachin · Feb 21, 2007, 03:01 am

More Hospital Time for Tiny Baby | World Latest | Guardian Unlimited

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More Hospital Time for Tiny Baby

Wednesday February 21, 2007 6:46 AM

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MIAMI (AP) - A girl born after just under 22 weeks in the womb - among the shortest gestation periods known for a live birth - will remain in a hospital a few extra days as a precaution, officials said Tuesday.

Amillia Sonja Taylor, born Oct. 24 after just under 22 weeks in the womb, had been expected to be sent home from Baptist Children's Hospital on Tuesday.

However, routine tests indicated she was vulnerable to infection, said Dr. Paul Fassbach, who has cared for the baby since shortly after she was born. [...]

I sincerely hope this pushes back the cut-off point of viability. Under Roe v. Wade, viability is considered to begin at 24 weeks.

brien · Feb 21, 2007, 10:28 am

Whatever it does, it acts as a powerful example of the tenacity of human life and should serve to educate anyone who cares to understand, all of the issues surrounding abortion. It is helpful and educational to see these stories because individuals require as much information as can be made available to decide whether to have an abortion. Personally, I think the more stories we see like these, the less abortions will be chosen by pregnant women. This should be the goal of the anti abortion crowd, ie education, not seeking to have government dictate policy in abortion but to educate women as to the full implications and consequences of abortion. This is the battlefield where the war to change hearts and minds will be won.

The Bacon Guy · Feb 21, 2007, 10:49 am

Well, it depends on whether you base your opinion of abortion on viability, rather than on other more relevant factors. In any case, I agree with brien on this: it's always good to have as much information as possible. Nothing like a good informed decision. However, as far as this pirate is concerned, the new information means nothing.

Apeman81 · Feb 21, 2007, 04:03 pm

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Quote by: The Bacon Guy

Well, it depends on whether you base your opinion of abortion on viability, rather than on other more relevant factors. In any case, I agree with brien on this: it's always good to have as much information as possible. Nothing like a good informed decision. However, as far as this pirate is concerned, the new information means nothing.

More relevant factor?

The Bacon Guy · Feb 21, 2007, 07:50 pm

Such as the rights of the people involved. Viability is a non-issue: after a termination, a viable foetus will be just as dead as an unviable one and the effects of this death are just the same. Birth is the important cut-off point for me: with a post-birth termination, you have a dead member of society; with a pre-birth termination, you have a destroyed item of property.

I don't want to go into any more detail here: nothing kills a thread like an off-topic abortion discussion. My views on the foetus's rights are expressed in more detail in the life at conception thread in the posts around October/November.

Feb 21, 2007, 10:28 am	#2 (permalink) (top)
brien Iceberg Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,691	Whatever it does, it acts as a powerful example of the tenacity of human life and should serve to educate anyone who cares to understand, all of the issues surrounding abortion. It is helpful and educational to see these stories because individuals require as much information as can be made available to decide whether to have an abortion. Personally, I think the more stories we see like these, the less abortions will be chosen by pregnant women. This should be the goal of the anti abortion crowd, ie education, not seeking to have government dictate policy in abortion but to educate women as to the full implications and consequences of abortion. This is the battlefield where the war to change hearts and minds will be won. Brien the Iceberg If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything. M.T.

Feb 21, 2007, 10:49 am	#3 (permalink) (top)
The Bacon Guy Brb, France Location: Scotland, Central Lowlands Posts: 2,865	Well, it depends on whether you base your opinion of abortion on viability, rather than on other more relevant factors. In any case, I agree with brien on this: it's always good to have as much information as possible. Nothing like a good informed decision. However, as far as this pirate is concerned, the new information means nothing. The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.

Feb 21, 2007, 07:50 pm	#5 (permalink) (top)
The Bacon Guy Brb, France Location: Scotland, Central Lowlands Posts: 2,865	Such as the rights of the people involved. Viability is a non-issue: after a termination, a viable foetus will be just as dead as an unviable one and the effects of this death are just the same. Birth is the important cut-off point for me: with a post-birth termination, you have a dead member of society; with a pre-birth termination, you have a destroyed item of property. I don't want to go into any more detail here: nothing kills a thread like an off-topic abortion discussion. My views on the foetus's rights are expressed in more detail in the life at conception thread in the posts around October/November. The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.