Aussie President John Howard slams Obama...

[The_Genius]

SYDNEY, Australia (AP) -- Australia's conservative prime minister slammed U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama on Sunday over the candidate's opposition to the Iraq war, saying it encourages terrorists and threatens to destabilize the Middle East. The first-term U.S. senator announced Saturday that he will run for the White House in 2008, saying the country's first priority should be to end the war in Iraq. Obama has also introduced a bill to prevent U.S. President George W. Bush from increasing American troop levels in Iraq, and to remove U.S. combat forces from the country by March 31, 2008. (Watch as Obama outlines his plans for Iraq -- 1:12 ) However, the legislation has virtually no chance of becoming law while Bush is president. Australian Prime Minister John Howard, who will face his own re-election bid later this year, said Obama's policy would spell disaster for the Middle East.

Source: Howard slams Obama on Iraq policy - CNN.com

This afternoon I saw Obama responding by saying USA had provided 160000 troops to Iraq. Australia should've sent 20000 troops since Howard is so concerned about terrorism. However, Australia only sent 1400 troops...

John Coward retaliated by saying Australia is smaller than USA in size and population.

[RickSp]

Howard's stupidity is a gift to Obama. What more could a junior Senator ask than to be taken seriously by a world leader?

[GHook93]

Quote by: RickSp Howard's stupidity is a gift to Obama. What more could a junior Senator ask than to be taken seriously by a world leader?

Only was to Obama's benefit, because he came back appropriately and made Howard look like a fool.

[notworthabean]

Quote by: The_Genius Source: Howard slams Obama on Iraq policy - CNN.com This afternoon I saw Obama responding by saying USA had provided 160000 troops to Iraq. Australia should've sent 20000 troops since Howard is so concerned about terrorism. However, Australia only sent 1400 troops... John Coward retaliated by saying Australia is smaller than USA in size and population.

howard has a point re the populaiton, not to mention the aussies handle a lot of s.e. asia as well.

[Gods_Mercenary]

Quote by: The_Genius Source: Howard slams Obama on Iraq policy - CNN.com This afternoon I saw Obama responding by saying USA had provided 160000 troops to Iraq. Australia should've sent 20000 troops since Howard is so concerned about terrorism. However, Australia only sent 1400 troops... John Coward retaliated by saying Australia is smaller than USA in size and population.

That's rich, I doubt that australia couldn't have spared a few more thousans troops, saying that they were too smart to get too involved in such a disaster would have been better.

[tinybear]

Obama is just another politician saying what the electorate wants to hear: end the war in Iraq and bring the boys home. I must admit that sounds very very attractive.

[The_Genius]

Howard does look like an idiot now, well he always was one. He is bidding for a 5th term in australian perliament and that sounds quite inapropiate to me.

[GHook93]

Quote by: tinybear Obama is just another politician saying what the electorate wants to hear: end the war in Iraq and bring the boys home. I must admit that sounds very very attractive.

Please, he spoke out against the war before we invaded Iraq. Remember most Americans back then we for it. Shit most citizens of Illinois (remember he is a IL senator) were for the war. This is going against the public. This guy is sticking by his guns.

He openly admitted to experimenting with drugs. He didn't do the Texas 2 step like Clinton (I never inhaled) or GWB, Obama admitted it. Which is again not telling the people what they want to hear.

Your assessment is wrong. If anything Obama is a breath of fresh air with his honesty and openness!

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: GHook93 If anything Obama is a breath of fresh air with his honesty and openness!

Does that trump the policies he supports? ( Assuming you are not completly in support of his positions. )


Personally, I still see him as a Statists, and no matter how candid one may appear, he's never going to win my vote.

[Mason]

I'd vote for Obama due to his lack of experience. In my eyes what we have at the moment isn't working. Get a fresh mind and fresh view in there. At worst we see a politician turn from fresh face to fall on face. At best, we get some things done as a country.

[GHook93]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Does that trump the policies he supports? ( Assuming you are not completly in support of his positions. )

Explain what policy in particular your talking about?

Iraq war? On am on the fense
Universal Health care? 100% support
Etc.

Name the one your talking about!

Personally, I still see him as a Statists, and no matter how candid one may appear, he's never going to win my vote.

I am sure he will survive without your support, especially one with such demented views of 9/11!

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: GHook93 Explain what policy in particular your talking about?

Obviously I was painting with a rather braod brush there, and that question is worded in the rhetorical sense, so that one could articulate their own response, in their own wrords about any policy they might have had issues with.


Truly, it was completey rhetorical, sort of in a comedic "I don't get you guys" type angle.

Quote by: GHook93 I am sure he will survive without your support, especially one with such demented views of 9/11!

Now I'm demented, am I? Damn, we need an icon specifically for that.


Well, at least know that your free to speak your mind to me, and that I'll never flag your post for being "provocative", or "name calling".

[GHook93]

Quote by: Milton Bradley Obviously I was painting with a rather braod brush there, and that question is worded in the rhetorical sense, so that one could articulate their own response, in their own wrords about any policy they might have had issues with. Truly, it was completey rhetorical, sort of in a comedic "I don't get you guys" type angle. Now I'm demented, am I? Damn, we need an icon specifically for that. Well, at least know that your free to speak your mind to me, and that I'll never flag your post for being "provocative", or "name calling".

You just posted on the Canadian troop pull-out that 9/11 was committed by the US government (or you at least strongly inferred that). I call that demented,

[Milton Bradley]

Quote by: GHook93 You just posted on the Canadian troop pull-out that 9/11 was committed by the US government (or you at least strongly inferred that). I call that demented,

You are welcome to your own definitions.


Notice that I never tried to correct you, or invite further discussion on that matter. I'm perfectly content to agree to disagree on this matter.


But just for clarification purposes...


Do you completely refuse to entertain the thought that they could have been complicit? Or have you arrived at other conclusions on your own, or just ratioanlized away as "conspiracy"?

[The_Genius]

Demented?

I'm surprised Bradley didn't call you a brainwashed puppet that only believes what US media broadcasts.

US government was involved in 9/11... There are many evidences too. I suggest everybody watches the documentary called "Loose Change 9/11". I must stress that this documentary was produced by fellow truth-loving white americans, before Ghook points out it's a "Muslim conspiracy theory".

Here is the website... Loose Change Website - Version 2.0

...yall should actually watch the documentary before screaming out "conspiracy theory". Make up your own mind!

[brien]

Obama is currently polling 24% to Hillary's 28% and John Edward's 13% I don't think Obama will beat Hillary for the nomination. He is young and people will determine he has time in the future to run. And keep in mind, the electorate usually picks its Presidents not from the Senate, but from the Governorships across the nation. The last figure I saw was one in four Presidents have come from the Senate. Watch for Governor Richardson from NM. He knows how the Clintons fight because he was one of them. He has the experience and he doesn't have the baggage of flip flopped statements on the war. I laugh every time I hear Hillary's statements that all contradict one another. It is most amusing.

2008 Democratic Presidential Primary Clinton 28% Obama 23% Edwards 13% February 12, 2007 Senator Hillary Clinton (D) continues to enjoy frontrunner status and now attracts 28% of the vote from Likely Democratic Primary Voters nationwide. The former First Lady of the nation recently asserted that "I'm the one person [Republicans] are most afraid of. Bill and I have beaten them before and we will again", but the former First Lady continues to lead the Democratic nomination race was pulling away from other contenders for the Democratic nomination, the latest Rasmussen Reports Election 2008 polling shows that the race has stabilized a bit

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Obama's political gaffaw yesterday didn't win him any admirers either when he labeled the 3000 American deaths in Iraq as "wasted lives." He has apologized for this but I don't think it will garner him any support from the military minded voters. War or no war.

[Apeman81]

Quote by: The_Genius Source: Howard slams Obama on Iraq policy - CNN.com This afternoon I saw Obama responding by saying USA had provided 160000 troops to Iraq. Australia should've sent 20000 troops since Howard is so concerned about terrorism. However, Australia only sent 1400 troops... John Coward retaliated by saying Australia is smaller than USA in size and population.

The story is representative of the misdirection through selective reporting that feeds into the mass's desire to throw epithets rather than address issues.

"Australia's conservative prime minister slammed U.S. presidential hopeful Barak Obama on Sunday over the candidate's opposition to the Iraq war..."

Minister Howard was indeed not speaking of only Obama's opposition to the war, but rather specifically to Obama's setting a specific date for withdrawal. He correctly asserted that given the circumstances that exist, the idea of setting a certain date for withdrawal, without regard to the achievement of measurable goals representative of victory, is to concede defeat by handing victory to the side willing to simply wait for the opposition to fold up it's tent and go home.

Such an irresponsible position will indeed create the situation in which the lives lost in this war as having been, in Obama’s words, “wasted”

[notworthabean]

Quote by: The_Genius Demented? I'm surprised Bradley didn't call you a brainwashed puppet that only believes what US media broadcasts. US government was involved in 9/11... There are many evidences too. I suggest everybody watches the documentary called "Loose Change 9/11". I must stress that this documentary was produced by fellow truth-loving white americans, before Ghook points out it's a "Muslim conspiracy theory". Here is the website... Loose Change Website - Version 2.0 ...yall should actually watch the documentary before screaming out "conspiracy theory". Make up your own mind!

1) this conspriaycy would invovle a very large number of people, the chances of it lasting this long w/o anyoen knowing is nil, esp in america where everyone wants to talk

2) these guys are sil alive.you think the gov't would et a movie like this get this far if they were invovled?

3) Screw Loose Change

4) many many many many engineers agree this works-i am not one, but the vast majority seem to agree-it works.

[rmnunez]

"Obama Bin Laden" non registrable:

Government officials have rejected a Florida man's bid to trademark the term "Obama bin Laden," ruling that the conflation of the names of a US Senator and the world's leading terrorist was "scandalous" and wrongly suggested a connection between the politician and the mass murderer. In a February 6 decision, US Patent and Trademark Office attorney Karen K. Bush informed applicant Alexandre Batlle of her decision not to register the trademark. A copy of Bush's notice can be found below. Last month, Batlle, a 28-year-old Miami Beach resident, filed an application to trademark the term for use on hats, shirts, pins, and bumper stickers.

Battle is talented, I don't suppose there'd be a relationship between Karen K. Bush and the infamous united statian president?

[Compugasm]

Quote by: rmnunez I don't suppose tyhere'd be a relationship between Karen K. Bush and the infamous united statian president?

I guess in the early 1900's these kind of political cartoons were novel, considering there were so few media outlets compared to now. However, I'll be happy not to see pictures of Hillary in a burka, like it's some sort of clever political statement. In fact, I feel sad for anyone who thinks pictures of GWB as a monkey is funny. Bonus sadness given to anyone who wastes their hard earned dollars on this useless merchandise.