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Old Jan 30, 2007, 09:45 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Israel for first time gets Muslim minister

Israeli Cabinet gets first Muslim minister - Focus on Israel/Palestinians - MSNBC.com
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JERUSALEM - Israel on Monday installed the first Muslim Cabinet minister in its 58-year history, with parliament approving his appointment by a wide margin.

Raleb Majadele’s appointment to the Cabinet, which the government billed as a step toward equality for Muslim Arabs, Israel’s largest minority, passed by a vote of 59 to 23.

Majadele, a parliamentary backbencher from the centrist Labor Party, said his appointment is meant to give representation to Israel’s Arabs, who make up about 20 percent of the country’s 7 million citizens. He has predicted that in the future, every Israeli government will be obliged to include an Arab minister

Israel’s parliament has always had Arab lawmakers — today, they number 13 members out of 120. But the country has had only one Arab Cabinet minister before: Salah Tarif, a Druse, who was appointed in 2001 and forced to resign nine months later under a cloud of corruption allegations

Arabs have been slowly taking on a more visible role in Israeli society in recent years. There is an Arab Supreme Court justice, as well as several diplomats and senior civil servants. There is also a smattering of Arab TV journalists and actors, along with a former national beauty queen and the winner of the Israeli version of “America’s Next Top Model.”
Guarantee most on this board will say that this means nothing. That, since it took so long, is another example of Israeli discrimination. However, it is significant. Israel has always had Arab lawmakers (can the pro-Muslims on the board say that Muslims countries give Christians and Jews the same respect? - Doubtful). There is an Arab supreme court justice, Arab journalist etc. Like it or not Israel is a far more tolerate country than ANY of its Muslim neighbors.

Remember one thing America just got its first Muslim Congressman!
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 09:49 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you arguing that the United States should interfere in Muslim countries with military force because of their intolerance?

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Old Jan 30, 2007, 09:58 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you arguing that the United States should interfere in Muslim countries with military force because of their intolerance?

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NO, how the hell did you infer that?
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 10:10 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I inferred it from your commentary.

Since I was wrong, what do you mean by this:

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Like it or not Israel is a far more tolerate country than ANY of its Muslim neighbors.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 10:25 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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I inferred it from your commentary.

Since I was wrong, what do you mean by this:



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well do you have any normal jewish cabinenet member in say..iran?
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 10:25 am   #6 (permalink) (top)
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What's your point?

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Old Jan 30, 2007, 10:26 am   #7 (permalink) (top)
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What's your point?

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well many critics of israel criticize it as racist intloerante etc etc. this is a counter point. I don't know if your guility of that, but i am sure some are,.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 10:34 am   #8 (permalink) (top)
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The fact that the Israeli government now has a Muslim cabinet minister does not wash the blood from its agents' hands.

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Old Jan 30, 2007, 11:04 am   #9 (permalink) (top)
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The fact that the Israeli government now has a Muslim cabinet minister does not wash the blood from its agents' hands.

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its "Agents" hands are bloody by nessicity not becuause they are evil men, and I never saidit "washedthe hands" ofanyone, just that israel was a fair country.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 11:46 am   #10 (permalink) (top)
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well do you have any normal jewish cabinenet member in say..iran?
Actually they have 1. A Jewish parliment member. However, no other law makers, judge and I am pretty sure no journalist.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 12:14 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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Actually they have 1. A Jewish parliment member. However, no other law makers, judge and I am pretty sure no journalist.
I said cabinenet member though, and if the kids in my temple who are from irans fathers stories are true.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 12:41 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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The Muslim nation of Lebanon has a Christian president....by law. Does Israeli law mandate any leadership position to someone of Arab descent?

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Old Jan 30, 2007, 01:38 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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The Muslim nation of Lebanon has a Christian president....by law. Does Israeli law mandate any leadership position to someone of Arab descent?

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Old Jan 30, 2007, 02:01 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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The Muslim nation of Lebanon has a Christian president....by law. Does Israeli law mandate any leadership position to someone of Arab descent?

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Why not post a specific site instead of a search! :eek:
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 02:21 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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The Muslim nation of Lebanon has a Christian president....by law. Does Israeli law mandate any leadership position to someone of Arab descent?

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Lebanon for a very long time was a christian not muslim nation, and the reason for the governments divsion on ethnic lines (i believe it goes christian presideint/sunni pm/shia majorty leader) is that the 3groups all want(ed) to co-exist without civil war (yes i know it happened anyway) and that was the divion that worked for them. it wasn't till outsiders meddled in their politics that they were shoken off balance.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 03:02 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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I said cabinenet member though, and if the kids in my temple who are from irans fathers stories are true.
who cares what you said, youre trying to say jews cant get into government or some other such nonsense, and you were shown to be wrong.
Why not just ask "omg how many jewish presidents in arab countries dude?" and assure yourself an easy win.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 03:03 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Lebanon for a very long time was a christian not muslim nation, and the reason for the governments divsion on ethnic lines (i believe it goes christian presideint/sunni pm/shia majorty leader) is that the 3groups all want(ed) to co-exist without civil war (yes i know it happened anyway) and that was the divion that worked for them. it wasn't till outsiders meddled in their politics that they were shoken off balance.
its niether, if demographics dictate otherwise, then the country changes, thats how a democracy works.
Will happen in US, Israel and some european countries.
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I said cabinenet member though, and if the kids in my temple who are from irans fathers stories are true.
im really depressed there are no non-jewish zionists on this forum.
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Old Jan 30, 2007, 03:13 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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who cares what you said, youre trying to say jews cant get into government or some other such nonsense, and you were shown to be wrong.
Why not just ask "omg how many jewish presidents in arab countries dude?" and assure yourself an easy win.
1) it matters what I said because he was addressing my point

2) becuase the presdient of israel is not muslim.

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its niether, if demographics dictate otherwise, then the country changes, thats how a democracy works.
Will happen in US, Israel and some european countries.
demography does not autmotaicly mean a change. just because you can produce more babies does not mean you autoamitly own everything.
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im really depressed there are no non-jewish zionists on this forum.
why is that?

(side note-i've invited non-jewish zionist/conservtive freinds of mine, but college going as it is many do not have time to post)
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