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Old Jul 29, 2006, 03:44 am   #1 (permalink) (top)
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Violence in Mideast spills over to Seattle!!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14082298/
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SEATTLE - A man walked into a Jewish organization Friday afternoon and opened fire, killing one woman and injuring at least five others before he was arrested, officials said.

The gunman, who employees said claimed to be a Muslim angry at Israel, forced his way through the security door at the Jewish Federation after an employee had punched in her security code, said Marla Meislin-Dietrich, a co-worker who was not at the building at the time.

Staff members said they overheard him saying “‘I am a Muslim American, angry at Israel,’ before opening fire on everyone,” Meislin-Dietrich said. “He was randomly shooting at everyone.”
Ack! Nowhere to run! Nowhere to hide!


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Old Jul 29, 2006, 03:52 am   #2 (permalink) (top)
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That's just fantastic.

We are conducting a war, since we are backing Israel. I'm sure this won't be the only example of vilolence on our own ground.


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Old Jul 29, 2006, 05:31 am   #3 (permalink) (top)
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The guy's just a nutcase. Don't panic, folks. It's an isolated incident, that's all.
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 05:52 am   #4 (permalink) (top)
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I know that - but it still served as a reminder (to me) that the US is going to feel some of this.

We have essentially gone to war, imo, by stating that we do not want a cease-fire and supplying weapons to Israel.


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Old Jul 29, 2006, 07:54 am   #5 (permalink) (top)
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Actually, we've been at war since 2001.
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 01:12 pm   #6 (permalink) (top)
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This is not a random act.
This is the beginning of a holy war.
This is a direct result of American Zionist warfare in Lebanon.

As long as we officially condone the murder of muslims, we will be seeing plenty of this.

Maybe this guy didnt get the memo:
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"We believe it's a lone individual acting out his antagonism," said David Gomez, who heads the FBI's counterterrorism efforts in Seattle.
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Authorities did not release many details, but the FBI said the alleged shooter was between 30 and 40 and agents were investigating the incident as a hate crime. When asked at a news conference if that meant the alleged shooter was Muslim, Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske said: "You could infer that
Infer what? That only muslims hate jews? Oh, ok.

Couldnt we just as easily assume this is a neo-con black-op instilling fear so the sheeple wont question the thieves and murderers who rule them from the white house?

The MEMO I was referring to could have also been a psy-op: Holy War Announcement (released by al Qaida or the Pentagon).....
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Zawahri says Muslims must fight "Zionists, crusaders"

"Oh Muslims everywhere, I call on you to fight and become martyrs in the war against the Zionists and the Crusaders," Zawahri said in a video statement aired by Al Jazeera television on Thursday.
That should bring the whackos out of the woodwork. And if not, it could be used as a backdrop for false flag terrorism.
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 01:18 pm   #7 (permalink) (top)
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This is a direct result of American Zionist warfare in Lebanon
And before that there was no attacks on Jews by Muslims?
Its part of Muslim holy texts to kill jews.
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 01:33 pm   #8 (permalink) (top)
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And before that there was no attacks on Jews by Muslims?
Its part of Muslim holy texts to kill jews.
Or perhaps, it was triggered by the wanton killing of Muslims and in Lebanon, of Christians, by Israelis. The cycle of violence will never end as long as each side defines the other as wanton murderers and barbarians. Tragically, the charges made by each side appear increasingly to be accurate.


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Old Jul 29, 2006, 01:39 pm   #9 (permalink) (top)
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No one is ever going to get Shrike to admit his country may ever do anything wrong.


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Old Jul 29, 2006, 01:46 pm   #10 (permalink) (top)
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His country's government did the wrong, Mia. Let's not blame the people. And our government refused even to condemn this deliberate targeting of civilians. That was wrong too.
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 01:50 pm   #11 (permalink) (top)
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perhaps, it was triggered by the wanton killing of Muslims and in Lebanon, of Christians, by Israelis.
I am happy that you ignored my questions. The point still stands. There were always attacks on the Jews before this war before any war before Zionism Muslim attacked Jews.
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No one is ever going to get Shrike to admit his country may ever do anything wrong.
Another straw man argument. Where did I say that?
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 02:08 pm   #12 (permalink) (top)
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I am happy that you ignored my questions. The point still stands. There were always attacks on the Jews before this war before any war before Zionism Muslim attacked Jews.

Another straw man argument. Where did I say that?


ahahah you didn't, duh. The point is, you started posting before you engaged in any critical thought - thats what Mia is saying.


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Old Jul 29, 2006, 02:23 pm   #13 (permalink) (top)
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Shrike, are you asking if I am aware of anti-Semitism? Yes. I am aware. Do you have any more stupid questions? Like do I know the sky is blue?

Your slur "its part of Muslim holy texts to kill jews," is bullshit and offends me. My family is Jewish and we were relieved to learn that good friends of ours, Lebanese Muslims, in this case, a mother and two daughters, successfully escaped from Beruit. They got home yesterday. So yes, I am aware of anti-Semitism. I am also aware of Israeli bombs killing innocent children and destroying an economy and the environment of a neighbor.


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Old Jul 29, 2006, 02:23 pm   #14 (permalink) (top)
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This is a direct result of American Zionist warfare in Lebanon
And before that there was no attacks on Jews by Muslims?
I dont think it was purely coincidental. Coming one day after Zawhiri called for "Oh Muslims everywhere" to fight Zionists and Crusaders.

America part of the crusade, (at the whim of our despised leadership) so that makes us targets too. In case you were feeling all lonely and stuff.
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 02:28 pm   #15 (permalink) (top)
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Your slur "its part of Muslim holy texts to kill jews
Well it the truth.I cant do anything about it.
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Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen....html#041.6985
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 02:38 pm   #16 (permalink) (top)
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A better link: No. 2 al-Qaida says whole world is now a battlefield

Hey shrike, you may not be aware of all the murder in your official state mythology. Those who live in glass houses....
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 02:41 pm   #17 (permalink) (top)
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Shrike, excuse me if I am not overawed by your wisdom as an Islamic scholar, particularly as you are quoting the Koranic version of the Christian "Revelations". I am not going to waste my time Googling the more odious passages from the Hebrew bible in response. We both know they exist.

If you hate Muslims that is your problem. I am not overly impressed.


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Old Jul 29, 2006, 02:48 pm   #18 (permalink) (top)
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Shrike, excuse me if I am not overawed by your wisdom as an Islamic scholar. I am not going to waste my time Googling the more odious passages from the Hebrew bible in response. We both know they exist.
Hebrew bible is irrelevant because Israel is secular state contrary to Hezbollah that Muslim fundamentalist. So this quote explains Hezbollah intention and they don't deny it.
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If you hate Muslims that is your problem. I am not overly impressed.
I don't hate anyone and I never implied that.
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 02:50 pm   #19 (permalink) (top)
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A better link: No. 2 al-Qaida says whole world is now a battlefield
I am fully aware that fundamental Muslims want to take over the world its nothing new.
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Old Jul 29, 2006, 02:52 pm   #20 (permalink) (top)
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Well it the truth.I cant do anything about it.

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamen....html#041.6985
One, I believe you are quoting from the Sunnah or Hadeeth, neither of which is the Koran. Two, if it was found in the Koran it was referring to a specific conflict at that time.

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So this quote explains Hezbollah intention and they don't deny it.
First you said Muslims, now you corrected yourself to say Hezbollah, which is more accurate. They have stated the goal of wiping Israel off the map.

But I don't think they are hunting Jews all over the world, just the one's occupying Arab territory.

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I am fully aware that fundamental Muslims want to take over the world its nothing new.
Everyone wants to rule the world. I am not in the least afraid that they can, so am not concerned with this desire.


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