Iraqi PM: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi killed

[Saint Vern]

Quote by: brien Bish; I am with you 100% here. This blast site looks devastating and all the corpse shows is a few bruises?

Not even close. Did you see his entire body, and therefore can you declare something out of order? No and no. Leave this to logical people.

[Zeebadee]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio Wow My head spins trying to keep up with the latest amazingness. There are a fwe websites that say we never landed on the moon, I bet a few of you here are subscribers too...

And you still believe that the WMD's are buried in Iraq, and will be discovered any day now. Talk about gullible!!!

[Saint Vern]

Quote by: Zeebadee And you still believe that the WMD's are buried in Iraq.

They were buried in lebanon by the syrians.

[rmnunez]

I wonder about this suspicion the condition of the Zarqawi's body and timing of his death may be evidence of some hanky-panky. Is there any evidence Zarqawi could have been killed elsewhere, maybe previously and kept on ice to be displayed now?

[Saint Vern]

Quote by: rmnunez I wonder about this suspicion the condition of the Zarqawi's body and timing of his death may be evidence of some hanky-panky. Is there any evidence Zarqawi could have been killed elsewhere, maybe previously and kept on ice to be displayed now?

No.

[Jack]

Anything's possible, rmnunez. If it's done well, we'll never know. It's awfully soon to predict what further evidence might come out.

[rmnunez]

Isherwood, do you think they could have kept Zarqawi on ice waiting for an ideal opportunity to broadcast his death? I noticed oil prices fell by about $3 a barrel on news of Zarqawi's death, if this reaction was foreseable, you think specualting Bush administration insiders did this to make some money?

Some Democrats, breaking ranks from their leadership, today said the death of terrorist leader Abu Musab Zarqawi in Iraq was a stunt to divert attention from an unpopular and hopeless war. "This is just to cover Bush's [rear] so he doesn't have to answer" for Iraqi civilians being killed by the US military and his own sagging poll numbers, said Rep. Pete Stark, California Democrat. http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...1042-9038r.htm

[Jack]

Why not? It's certainly not medically complicated to preserve a body for a while, even in the desert. Another possibility is that we were provided the corpse by locals who either killed him or found him and we kept quiet about it until it could be useful. Like I said, we can imagine hundreds of likely and do-able scenarios, but until more comes out (leaks out), we won't be able to make better guesses.

As far as I've heard, we're depending on the military for all the info on this, are we not? And isn't there already a thread about trusting the military?

[Marilyn Monroe]

[quote=bishop]yeah... palm trees are definitely the reason why the entire surrounding area was levelled, yet somehow zarqawi came out seemingly perfectly intact. it's clear that you'll believe whatever the government tells you to believe though, so there's no point in attempting to "debate" you.

maybe the military will tell us that zarqawi was insulated from the massive blast because he was all wrapped up in protective palm trees.. riiight.. thanks for the laugh.

They find bodies under rubble all the time in natural disasters. He may have been in a very low place, and all the rubble was on top.

I think that he was killed when he was killed, and it was reported thereafter. It would have been much better to have caught him sooner, so I see no advantage to storing his body on ice.

I'm glad they got him. He was a rotten basterd. He was the one who killed that poor Nick Berg on video. I say death wasn't good enough for him.

[gr8fuldaniel]

Right, and violence is sure to end all this violence....

[Mr.Vicchio]

You guys don't know JACK about physics.

What is the biggest damage caused by a bomb?

Anyone? I doubt any of you know the answer.

[gr8fuldaniel]

While many of the war mongers and criminal sympathizers would relish in the satanic orgy of war and the spoils it brings for our oligarchy.....

http://www.wgmd.com/newspost/fullnews.php?id=1519 Berg Saddened By Death Of Son's Killer Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:55:41 +0000 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The death of Abu Musab al Zarqawi was considered a milestone moment for the U-S military as the war in Iraq continues on. But for Michael Berg… whose son Nick was killed by Zarqawi two years ago it brings no satisfaction. He tells WGMD that he had always hoped to meet face to face with his son’s killer. Berg says that every death in Iraq… be it American… Iraqi… or even foreign terrorists bother him. Ultimately he feels justice was not served even if others feel his son’s death has been avenged.

Nick Bergs father is more of a Christian than you will find in a thousand troops families.
Real Christians dont need revenge, they realize "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind".

The only other notable family member that doesnt lust for the blood of enemies is Cindy Sheehan. She does not need more murder on top of murder on top of murder..... to make her sons death vindicated. Our government is the anti-Christ, its a rush to war just so GW Bush can fuck the scull of Zarqawi. Remember the old "Osamas head on a pike" deal? Well they have wasted no time in bringing the remains of Zarqawi to Virginia.

Like father like son?.....

http://activemuse.org/pages/art.htm Geronimos great grandson wants Bush to return Geronimos Scull and Bones On Wednesday, May 24th at about 3:43 pm ET, CNN broadcast this odd little story. There seems to be no reference to it on CNN's website and we haven't seen any encore broadcasts since. Here is the short version of the story... Geronimo's great grandson is making a plea to President Bush to facilitate the return of the Apache chief. The heir to Geronimo decided to make this request to Bush after a researcher found proof that the Bush's great grandfather, Prescott Bush, had stolen the Geronimo's remains.

There is a CNN video interview with Geronimos great grandson on that link
You wanna bet Zarqawis scull gets misplaced? Who should stand in the way of satanic fraternity rituals involving stolen sculls ..........and rotten souls?

[bishop]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio You guys don't know JACK about physics. What is the biggest damage caused by a bomb? Anyone? I doubt any of you know the answer.

please enlighten us... i'm sure you have all sorts of first-hand experience with your combat-free record serving in a non-combat role..

i don't believe the administration's story regardless, because they do not deserve once ounce of trust. only the most dedicated bushbot apologists still lap up whatever they say, as you readily prove.

at the end of the day, as i've previously stated, it doesn't matter if zarqawi was real, let alone killed in this attack - it would just be yet another instance of the establishment lying to and manipulating the american public.. our problems in iraq will still continue and aren't likely to significantly improve, even with the death of one single man.

but, if zarqawi was real, and if we really did kill them, then good - one less terrorist soon to be replaced by another...

[brien]

Quote by: Saint Vern Not even close. Did you see his entire body, and therefore can you declare something out of order? No and no. Leave this to logical people.

Some how YOU missed the logic here. I posted that all we see is the head in a previous post. And now today there are reports that he was alive after the bombing and died subsequently.

See today's NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/

So perhaps it is you that should leave the LOGICAL questions to those of us who doubt the government's story here. You can suck up all of the bullshit to fill your head, but those of us who don't accept this explanation at face value have many unanswered questions.

I postulate they found him, captured his ass, and then killed him to forego a lengthy trial that would eclipse the Saddam trial. There was no way they would ever put him on trial so they summarily executed him at the bombsite. They conveinently turned over his body to the Iraqis people and what we will hear next is that it is against the Muslim religion to exhume a body for autopsy. Therefore we willl never know the actual time of death, the cause of death, or every other piece of information that comes with autopsy results.

I am not a conspiricy buff, but in this instance, I see so many inconsistencies already, I can't help but be suspicious of a government that has proved to be less than honest with regard to this so called war.

[brien]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio You guys don't know JACK about physics. What is the biggest damage caused by a bomb? Anyone? I doubt any of you know the answer.

Ok Professor, please come up to the podium and instruct us about physics.

"Biggest damage" I have ever read about, and seen pictures of, are by bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.


I will await you learned response on physics, Professor Vicchio. Perhaps you can solve this simple problem in Physics: . A net force of 16 N causes a mass to accelerate at a rate of 5 m/s2. Determine the mass

Somehow, I feel I will be waiting, and waiting, and waiting........

[Autolykos]

Quote by: Mr.Vicchio You guys don't know JACK about physics. What is the biggest damage caused by a bomb? Anyone? I doubt any of you know the answer.

To my knowledge, the largest amount of damage caused by conventional and nuclear explosives comes from the shockwave produced by the explosive chemical (or nuclear) reaction. This shockwave is produced from the extraordinary speed at which the reaction occurs and its interaction with the surrounding environment (air, buildings, people, etc).

- Rob

[Boetie]

Let's see you have a house aka Iraq with Bush Jr and Chicken Dick in it, they see a fly aka Zarqawi, they grab their shotgun, they go around the house shooting at the fly, resulting in the windows getting shot out aka insurgency, the walls getting holes blown through it aka terrorism, the roof now let's the rain come through because of the holes they blew through it aka civil war. They then see the fly on floor pick it up and feel proud saying, "we got the fly."

Bush Jr and Chicken Dick sit down on a piece of furniture that has been shot up and attempt to turn on the shot up television set. Suddenly a million flies shows up and flies around their head.

Brilliant.

[Avixious]

He didn't even die in the bomb blast - but after when they were loading him onto a stretcher.

Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was alive on a stretcher when U.S. troops first reached him after an airstrike near Baquba, a U.S. military spokesman said Friday. Iraq's most wanted terrorist mumbled something indistinguishable and tried to move before he died, U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell told reporters.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...awi/index.html


Thats code for "we found him still alive and shot him".

[brien]

Quote by: Avixious He didn't even die in the bomb blast - but after when they were loading him onto a stretcher. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...awi/index.html Thats code for "we found him still alive and shot him".

I don't know about shooting him but the NY Times published the story today that I linked above in a previous post. There are any number of ways to kill him after the bombing and after they deliver him to the bomb site.

[Sonart]

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Quote by: brien Thats code for "we found him still alive and shot him".

{{YAWN}} I swear, you boys can make a conspiracy out of any damn thing. 'I postulate' that we would have liked nothing better than to have held him, questioned him and put him on a big, showy Iraqi government trial to milk all that publicity possible, just like with Saddam.


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