Dutch Paedophile Party

[PatrickHenry]

Quote by: eburchelli Socialism comes in a close second because governments that promote socialism, need to be in control of the population.

You mean like the US?

[Marilyn Monroe]

Quote by: SKipe But not too long ago humans were getting married and having children at that age. and in some cultures it is still happening today. a lot of kids are sexually active from that age, so why not give them a choice as to who they want to have sex with? the other thing is that this is going to happen whether we legalise it or not, but by legalisation we are able to control it and prevent abuse.

That was then. This is today, and today is today.

As long as the parents are legally responsible, no way, and kids can be sexually active all they want, it's still morally wrong. You have to have standards in this world. It's not a free for all.

[5010]

It's not just about arbitrary standards. The issue with sex that early is, like it or not, there is a connection between sex and reproduction. So think along the unintended consequences: 12 year old parents.

At 18, one should be done with the basic education to get a job and support the family. Sure, that job is probably going to be blue-collar, but it still works.

At 16, some might be ready for the work force, but most are not. Most can barely support themselves, much less a family. You have to think along the lines of most in setting standards. So it's too early.

At 12, they just aren't ready to support themselves and of course unable to support a family.

So you set the standard where it works, or change education so that most people are ready for at least a good blue-collar job by the time they are 12. Then you consider them adults, and let them buy houses and drive cars and work as adults.

I don't know if 12 year old are potentially that mature if put under a different system of development, but it doesn't matter what the potential is when setting standards. You set them based on actual and they are actually not that mature under the actual system of development.

[Samildanach]

Fact is it is up to an individual to decide when sex is appropriate for that individual. Everyone should be able to make their own choices in life as soon as they have learned a decent amount of language to let that choice be known. I would say the only thing that is necessary for someone of 12 or 13 to have sex is to have all the facts in terms of contraception and possible results that could occur. I think most 12 and 13 year olds comprehend sex these days anyway. I know that most kids get the sex talk about 9 or 10 and then spend the next two years wondering about it and researching it.

[eburchelli]

Quote by: PatrickHenry . You mean like the US?

If the shoe fits!

With enough liberal influence, yes, like the US.

Democrats have this delusion that the Bush administration is far right. Although I am not a part of the far right, I am a conservative and I can tell you without a doubt, that this administration is nudging at liberals to be the first to advance socialism in the US. With a little help or push from the right liberals, along with those neo-cons and RINOs within the Republican party, socialism has a good chance of succeeding.

[5010]

Quote by: eburchelli ...socialism...

Ahh but you are not using the right word... compassion ;-)

[rmnunez]

Marriage is regulated under Canon law (well-established, properly positivized and of customary application in many predominantly Catholic countries). Under its Art.1071§6 a priest may not perform marital rites for a minor, absent parental consent if they reasonably oppose. Art. 1083 establishes minority to consent for marriage in males at 16 and for girls at 14. Under Art. 1083 §2 the respective clerical authorities are free to set these minimums in conformity with prevailing local laws. Marriage at a lesser age is or may be deemed an impediment to its validity under Canon law and grounds for its annulment when clerically performed.