Verizon denies giving out phone info

[Capitalist Pig]

Quote by: CNNMoney.com NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Verizon Communications Inc. denied earlier media reports that it entered into a contract with the National Security Agency, providing the government office with info about its customer phone calls. "One of the most glaring and repeated falsehoods in the media reporting is the assertion that, in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, Verizon was approached by NSA and entered into an arrangement to provide the NSA with data from its customers' domestic calls," the company said in a statement issued Tuesday. Verizon (Research) said it was not asked by the government agency to provide, nor did Verizon give out, customer phone records from any of its businesses, or any customer call data.

This is ridiculous. The government is going to cause a major suit against Verizon for things nobody really has any idea are true or not. The government instigated a situation that makes the telecommunications business look bad.

[RickSp]

This is almost funny in a sick sort of way. BellSouth made the same denial earlier today.

BellSouth denies giving records to NSA

Despite media reports to the contrary, BellSouth said late Monday it had not participated in any effort by the National Security Agency to collect customer phone records. "We have provided no customer information whatsoever to the NSA," said BellSouth spokesman Jeff Battcher.

[Scribbler1]

Verizon should come out of this completely unscathed. Look what you have here, a company saying it didn't provide customer information and a government saying it won't say anything because of national security concerns.

How can you sue Verizon when your only source of proof isn't talking?

[Capitalist Pig]

Quote by: Scribbler1 Verizon should come out of this completely unscathed. Look what you have here, a company saying it didn't provide customer information and a government saying it won't say anything because of national security concerns. How can you sue Verizon when your only source of proof isn't talking?

It's already in the motions:

Verizon stock takes hit on $50 billion lawsuit
NEW YORK (CNN) - A lawsuit is asking a federal court to order President Bush, the National Security Agency and Verizon to end a secret snooping program, and Verizon's stock took a hit on the news Monday.

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The suit, filed Friday by two New Jersey lawyers on behalf of all Verizon subscribers, contends the phone records collection - first reported by USA Today on Thursday - violates the Constitutional right to privacy and federal law.

[Rainbow]

The suit, filed Friday by two New Jersey lawyers on behalf of all Verizon subscribers, contends the phone records collection - first reported by USA Today on Thursday - violates the Constitutional right to privacy and federal law.

I am affraid they would get nothing, in return.
Regardless of outcomes, intelligence agencies are going to keep continue doing their job, and use telecommunication technology along with services for monitoring respondents. As long as technology progresses (and it does with every single second, till becomes useful and available in reality), it will escalate further.

[Scribbler1]

Quote by: Capitalist Pig It's already in the motions: [indent]Verizon stock takes hit on $50 billion lawsuit NEW YORK (CNN) - A lawsuit is asking a federal court to order President Bush, the National Security Agency and Verizon to end a secret snooping program, and Verizon's stock took a hit on the news Monday.

That comes as no surprise and I wish them well. However, filing a lawsuit and WINNING one are two distinctly different things. And as stocks go down they also go up. This might be an opportune time to buy Verizon.

[tman_ndsu08]

BellSouth is going to be owned by at&t in a year or so, they don't have much to lose.

[Apeman81]

Quote by: Capitalist Pig This is ridiculous. The government is going to cause a major suit against Verizon for things nobody really has any idea are true or not. The government instigated a situation that makes the telecommunications business look bad.

What if the "leaked" story turns out to be bullshit? What then?

[RickSp]

Quote by: Apeman81 What if the "leaked" story turns out to be bullshit? What then?

That would be wonderful. Not likely to happen with the war criminals in the White House, of course.

[Apeman81]

Quote by: RickSp That would be wonderful. Not likely to happen with the war criminals in the White House, of course.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You kill me with that stuff!

[RickSp]

Quote by: Apeman81 hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You kill me with that stuff!

I know. Used to always cracks up the Hitler-yugen too.

[Scribbler1]

Just to add to my point that you need PROOF of something to win a lawsuit:

Quote by: WashingtonPost Judge Rejects Call to Release AT& T Papers Justice Dept. Cites National Security; Privacy Group Says Documents Prove NSA Link By Karen Gullo and Joel Rosenblatt Bloomberg News Thursday, May 18, 2006; Page D05 A federal judge yesterday rejected a privacy group's request to release documents that it claims show AT&T Inc. helped the National Security Agency spy on Americans by providing access to customers' phone calls. U.S. District Judge Vaughn R. Walker said at a hearing in San Francisco that the documents may contain AT&T trade secrets. The judge also ruled against an AT&T request to have the privacy group, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, return the documents to the company on the grounds that they were stolen.

Link

[RickSp]

Ex-NSA Head Bobby Ray Inman on the National Security Agency’s Domestic Surveillance Program: “This Activity Was Not Authorized”

Admiral Bobby Ray Inman has become the highest-ranking former NSA official to speak out about the domestic spy program. “There clearly was a line in the FISA statutes which says you couldn’t do this,” said Inman last week in remarks that have received little attention. While Hayden and the Bush administration have defended the secret domestic surveillance program, it is now being criticized by an unlikely source – a former director of the NSA. Last week Admiral Bobby Ray Inman, who headed the NSA from 1977 to 1981, spoke in New York at a forum sponsored by the New York Public Library and the Century Foundation. It was part of the library’s Live at the NYPL series. Besides an article at the website Wired News, Inman’s statements have received almost no media attention even though he is believed to the highest ranking former NSA official to speak out about the program. At the forum he disputed the Bush administration's claim that Congress authorized the secret spy program when it authorized the president to use force following the Sept. 11 attacks. Inman also said the program clearly contradicts the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act which Congress passed in 1978 – at the time he was head of the National Security Agency.

[Apeman81]

Quote by: RickSp I know. Used to always cracks up the Hitler-yugen too.

Gee! Straight to the Nazi ad-homs. Wow, you're quick on the draw.

Do I hate black people too?