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Old Feb 4, 2005, 02:08 am   #25 (permalink) (top)
jeffl
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Memory as a persistence of vision is certainly needed to discuss consciousness, but it is very different from the experience itself.
That's what i'm saying. The persistence of vision probably applies to all levels of consciously present abstraction.

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We can and do experienced consciousness with no trace of memory. Our memories are abstraction and condensations of our conscious moments.
Yes, a different, more complex kind of memory; allowing for more complex levels of conscious abstraction, all the way to an image of self.

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Few if any of us have memories so clear that we can relive a single conscious moment.
Yes, smell is a good trigger; consider 'odors pleasing to the Lord.'

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Instead, we can recall being conscious, but not the consciousness itself.
Yes, the deluded self.

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Awareness is limited to a moment in time. It is always now. We can recall other moments, but we are not conscious of them in the same was as we are of the now.
Yes, that's what i mean by 'experience.'
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