[Geoff332]

The fact of variation is enough

If you are going to quote me, please do not quote me out of context. It is sloppy both logically, it makes your arguments on that point suprious, and it is largely a waste of time. Read the entire paragraph in which I wrote that. If you don't understand I what I wrote I would have been happy to explain it. As it is, your reply had absolutely nothing to do with the point of the paragraph.

The purpose was more on the philosophical side, showing the impacts evolutionary theory has had on society.

The impact of evolution on society has no relevance for whether it is true or not. Given that we were debating the issue of whether evolution was a valid scientific theory or not. Introducing them is surious reasoning and irrelevant conflation of very different topics.

None!

Therefore creationism is not science.

But see the problem is, none can be taken to falsify the evolutionist model either.

So you say. Unfortunately, you have not actually addressed the point. Problems with evidence are not the same as the absence of any tests.

I'm not going to continue in this debate. My general opinion (as a trained philosopher of science) of creationism and creation science is thast it is mis-informed, that it is disingenuous and that it is intellectually dsishonest. The basis of the argument is a rather weak and biased interpretation. Many of the tactics used to argue against evolution are so bad I can only assume that they are used intentionally. Each of your points I have highlighted here is an example of one of those tactics that makes me ashamed to be a Christian. If the Bible has to rely on such poor argumentation to back it up, then it's no wonder no-one takes it seriously anymore.

I won't read this thread again: I won't convince you of anything so there is absolutely no point. I don't really care if you respond or not, but I would suggest you think very carefully about what I have said.