Thread: Cryonics
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Old Feb 4, 2004, 01:43 am   #13 (permalink) (top)
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</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
I'm opposed it because it's non traditional<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

I think that is a poor reason for being against something. In vitro fertilization was considered untraditional when it first came out. Neo-luddites such as Leon Kass, currently the chairman for the President's Bio-ethics council, opposed in vitro fertilization on the grounds that it violated the "traditional" method of reproduction. Yet today in vitro is widely accepted by all western societies as a legitimate treament for helping couples conceive who would otherwise not be able to. The worth of a policy or practice should not be judged on whether it is traditional or not, but on it's merits.

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
I'm against the notion of ppl paying insane amount of money when the chances of a safe defrost, so to speak is still a long way in development.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

Well, for some one frozen in suspended animation, time is no longer much of a concern. And I think this is where you're missing the point. Try to put yourself into the perspective of the cryonicist. What is their rationale for having their bodies preserved in such an odd manner? First of all, I can tell you that not all of them are convinced that cryonics will work (I am not convinced that cryonics will work), they simply believe that there is the possibility of it working at sometime in the future. That sometime could be 100 years from now, it could be 1,000 years from now. The point is that they are making an educated bet. As I said previously, I would rather be in the experimental group than the controlled one.

Second, do you even know how much it costs to take out a cryogenics policy? Obviously you do not. There are life insurance policies that are willing to accomadate cryogenic suspension, and such policies cost literally pennies a day.

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by
It's a scam as far as I can see.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

This statement shows your complete lack of knowledge on the subject. A scam would imply that someone is being taken advantage of. No one is being taken advantage of here. Most cryonicists are members of the cryonics community and have carefully thought out their decision to be frozen. In addition, companies such as Alcor (which creates and maintains the cryonics facilities)were founded and are currently run and operated by people who themselves see the logic in cryonics.

Google the cryonics society. You will see that they are a community of people working towards a common goal. Of course, you may find their world view to be "odd". I'll grant you that. To the average person, having yourself frozen is very odd indeed, but please try to refrain from throwing slurs around when it is quite obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about.

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