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Old Jan 22, 2005, 08:47 pm   #37 (permalink) (top)
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Though revolutions (democratic or not) must arise from within, in some cases this is not possible. Where levels of repression or lack of custom are such that the repressed cannot rise up to challenge and change things, a little help from a powerful friend would be wonderful. Consider the situation in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan or Iraq shortly before interventions there, do you think the chances of revolution were 'ripe' in any of those places? But there can be no doubt change was needed. If we take the view that until the situation is 'ripe' enough the revolution has to wait, we condemn the victims of repression to its continuance until the tyrant's repression reaches a level of degradation adequate to overcome the force he can bring to bear in maintaining that situation.
You compare situations in three countries that are so different as to suggest, at least to me, that you either aren't aware of the conditions in each, or more likely, that you are not making any distinctions at all. To compare an intervention with broad international support to impede "ethnic cleansing" during the implosion of a post Communist state, to the necessary reaction to a direct attack, also with broad international support, to a completely unwarranted invasion of a state that never attacked us is simply absurd and I suspect reflects a certain arrogance that justifies almost any action of an imperial power. Again the word delusional comes to mind.


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