[Starboy]

Quote by: mr.perfecto As I have said before, the purpose (the intention; the end or object to be accomplished) of marriage is to establish responsibility for newly created human beings. A marriage is not just a government recognition of a family because--and you know this--a family is more than just a husband and wife. Nor is it a method of establishing legal responsibility for adopted children because--and you know this--an adoption is a legal process in and of itself that covers an entirely different set of circumstances.

perfecto, you are full of it. The history of marriage is a very interesting one and has just about nothing to do with having children. In case you haven't noticed, people do not appear to have any problems with having children no matter what official status of their relationship.

But this is not about marriage. This is about family. The government does recognize and grant the status of family to people who have no children and have no intention of ever having children. They do this through the mechanism of marriage. That is the law. Homos have families right now. They have life long commitments to each other and co-habitat and share everything that a childless family shares. It is their right to have the same treatment under the law as this childless couple. Now if you want to make a case that that in order to get married the couple must have already produced a child, then that is fine. I have no problem with that. Then since a homo couple could not do that then they would not be allowed such a marriage. But the childless hetero couple would also not be allowed such a marriage. But that is not what is on the books and nobody is talking about such a thing. So not allowing homos to marry is unequal treatment.

The reason homosexual marriage isn't getting anywhere is that the advocates of such unions haven't been able to offer an alternative purpose that marriage exists to fulfill. Leftist--essentially, a psychopath with an extreme hatred of the society he was born in. Such people typically deny the existence of any permanent moral standards for guiding human behavior, condemn tradition, and propose the establishment of a future society based on an ideology that denies human nature.

Then you must be a leftist, since you appear to have an extreme hatred of my traditions. It is even funnier that my traditions are American traditions. You know, freedom, equality, human rights. mr. perfecto, you appear to be a perfect idiot.

Starboy