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Originally posted by Jay+Aug 28 2003, 04:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jay @ Aug 28 2003, 04:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pooeypants@Aug 28 2003, 11:04 AM
1. In most religions you either join a religion or you will be condemned to eternal damnation, ie Christianity. There is no such thing as true religion...religion is defined by eventually by a ruling body.
2. Jesus dictated what we should and should not do, see, if we don't do as he says, we go to Hell, hence he is forcing ppl to join the movement. |
1. This is what I said. But the act of a ruling body or a government forcing people to join a certain religion has nothing to do with the religion itself. Actually they're abusing it to legitimate persecution of those who won't.
2. I never actually read anything about Jesus saying "either you join my movement or you'll go to hell" since that would be totally against the original ideals of christianity. But you're right, he dictated (does that make him a dictator?) certain rules to the believers. However he didn't create those rules to empower his position as a leader unlike political dictators. [/b][/quote]
1. Which is exactly what I mean, the religion IS defined by the leader/ruling body. It isn't that hard to change the "holy" scriptures. Me thinks you need to read Nineteen Eighty four
2. He dictated virtues that must be followed in order to go to heaven. Or maybe I am wrong and he was just blabbing. Hey, would you say Jesus was a capitalist or a socialist?