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Suburbanite · Feb 2, 2004, 07:10 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (PeterAngelo,)
Communism has never even been attempted. Totalitarian regimes called themselves that - and we supported it - to make communism a dirty word. <hr size="1" /></blockquote>

Thanks for the rhetoric Dr. Angelo, I think everyone has heard it before. You're wrong though. There have been many truly communist societies. Not in the Marxist sense, but in the true meaning of communism. They were primitive. Ideally of course it would be glorious, everything would be ideally. But these same communist societies were crushed upon the first encounters with capitalism, feudalism. It is a weak structure, communism, susceptible to so many levels of corruption and devoid of any defense.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (shunyadragon,)

Actually in at least on instance communism worked very well. The Panama Canal Zone was managed by the US government as a communist state and it did very well. All property, service and the businesses were owned by the state. Everyone worked for the state. All positions were appointed by the state. Everyone lived in state owned housing and in the drove state owned cars.

It ended for political reasons and not because it was a failure.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

There are many companies within the confines of America who operate very communistically. The fact is, once Panama was no longer upheld by the American dollar it became what Panama is now, which is hardly a success. Like I said, a very fragile system.

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (PeterAngelo,)

All the leaders of the world - so far - CHOOSE injustice.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

You can only hope.

Back to addressing all the would-be Buddhists here, I think that the religion is all fine and dandy but I have to wonder why it appeals to so many avoid non-Christians. Perhaps the absence of faith makes something as clearly laughable as Buddhism seem like a good idea. It is vanity that makes people think the Enlightenment is something they can obtain, or deserve. Further, the discipline it truly requires to be a Buddhist eludes you all. To say there are no Buddhist extremists is a fallacy; they are comprised of many fundamentalists. Those Buddhist who set themselves on fire in public as a sign of protest aren’t being a little extreme? True, they are non-violent; I guess suicide isn’t something that offends anyone…. I can’t say it really offends me either.

Feb 2, 2004, 07:10 am	#37 (permalink) (top)
Suburbanite BANNED Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,203	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (PeterAngelo,) Communism has never even been attempted. Totalitarian regimes called themselves that - and we supported it - to make communism a dirty word. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Thanks for the rhetoric Dr. Angelo, I think everyone has heard it before. You're wrong though. There have been many truly communist societies. Not in the Marxist sense, but in the true meaning of communism. They were primitive. Ideally of course it would be glorious, everything would be ideally. But these same communist societies were crushed upon the first encounters with capitalism, feudalism. It is a weak structure, communism, susceptible to so many levels of corruption and devoid of any defense. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (shunyadragon,) Actually in at least on instance communism worked very well. The Panama Canal Zone was managed by the US government as a communist state and it did very well. All property, service and the businesses were owned by the state. Everyone worked for the state. All positions were appointed by the state. Everyone lived in state owned housing and in the drove state owned cars. It ended for political reasons and not because it was a failure.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> There are many companies within the confines of America who operate very communistically. The fact is, once Panama was no longer upheld by the American dollar it became what Panama is now, which is hardly a success. Like I said, a very fragile system. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (PeterAngelo,) All the leaders of the world - so far - CHOOSE injustice.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> You can only hope. Back to addressing all the would-be Buddhists here, I think that the religion is all fine and dandy but I have to wonder why it appeals to so many avoid non-Christians. Perhaps the absence of faith makes something as clearly laughable as Buddhism seem like a good idea. It is vanity that makes people think the Enlightenment is something they can obtain, or deserve. Further, the discipline it truly requires to be a Buddhist eludes you all. To say there are no Buddhist extremists is a fallacy; they are comprised of many fundamentalists. Those Buddhist who set themselves on fire in public as a sign of protest aren’t being a little extreme? True, they are non-violent; I guess suicide isn’t something that offends anyone…. I can’t say it really offends me either.