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culebrero · Feb 1, 2004, 12:34 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Man Against Time)
I dont think being hit qualifies as Cruel or Unusual, so yes, it is perfectly appropriate as a civil punishment in lieu of crap like Community Service. The only Civil right dealing with punishment is that which protect a citizen from something that is cruel or unusual, not something that hurts, and I fail to see how being hit is either cruel or unusual. With this in mind, it is absolutely legal for the law of the land to comply with this practice. There is zero constitutional ground to demand an end to the practice. <hr size="1" /></blockquote>Calls to end paddling are not generally based on questions of constitutionality, and I don't think any were invoked in this thread. But something doesn't have to violate the Constitution for states to outlaw it.

That said, you certainly could make a case that the use of school paddling violates Title IX because unlike boys, girls who are maturing would have to reveal intimate personal information in order to avoid the chance of this punishment being unfairly compounded by menstrual discomfort.<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Man Against Time)
So now because of "skin inflammation" it is a brutal practice? <hr size="1" /></blockquote> Not skin inflammation in and of itself, but pain intensity--of which the inflammation may be an index. <blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Man Against Time)
brutal is certainly a subjective word with no "scientific scale' to measure,anyone who holds that being cracked in the ass is Brutal lives a very sugar-coated life.<hr size="1" /></blockquote> Imagine someone bending your wife or girlfriend over a desk and painfully whacking her ass with a board. Brutal or not brutal? (Guess the jury's still out on scalding someone's ass.)<blockquote>Quote:<hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Man Against Time)
Grow up homo.<hr size="1" /></blockquote>Well, of course you would say that . . . Let's just hope you are never in a position to "demand the compliance of a bent-over 16 year old school girl"

Feb 1, 2004, 12:34 am	#18 (permalink) (top)
culebrero Sedimentary Rock Posts: 17	</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Man Against Time) I dont think being hit qualifies as Cruel or Unusual, so yes, it is perfectly appropriate as a civil punishment in lieu of crap like Community Service. The only Civil right dealing with punishment is that which protect a citizen from something that is cruel or unusual, not something that hurts, and I fail to see how being hit is either cruel or unusual. With this in mind, it is absolutely legal for the law of the land to comply with this practice. There is zero constitutional ground to demand an end to the practice. <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>Calls to end paddling are not generally based on questions of constitutionality, and I don't think any were invoked in this thread. But something doesn't have to violate the Constitution for states to outlaw it. That said, you certainly could make a case that the use of school paddling violates Title IX because unlike boys, girls who are maturing would have to reveal intimate personal information in order to avoid the chance of this punishment being unfairly compounded by menstrual discomfort.</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Man Against Time) So now because of "skin inflammation" it is a brutal practice? <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Not skin inflammation in and of itself, but pain intensity--of which the inflammation may be an index. </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Man Against Time) brutal is certainly a subjective word with no "scientific scale' to measure,anyone who holds that being cracked in the ass is Brutal lives a very sugar-coated life.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Imagine someone bending your wife or girlfriend over a desk and painfully whacking her ass with a board. Brutal or not brutal? (Guess the jury's still out on scalding someone's ass.)</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Man Against Time) Grow up homo.<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>Well, of course you would say that . . . Let's just hope you are never in a position to "demand the compliance of a bent-over 16 year old school girl"