[shunyadragon]

</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Impenitent,)
</span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by (Pooeypants,)
Is that a bit like going back into and pushing yourself into the time machine?<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

not at all...

according to kant, the human mind creates time and space

there is still no need for a prime mover<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'>

'According to Kant???

I do not believe Kant. The statement 'the human mind creates time in space.' is a premise I don't accept. The 'need' for a prime mover is reaching beyond the known and a statement of faith. For those who believe in God the 'need' is there. For those who don't there is no 'need'.

It is possible that cause and effect are the result of the greater laws of existence and effect is not dependent on cause.

Assumptions are big part of why we disagree, but when you are in the middle of two unknowns, assumptions are the basis of what people believe.