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Old Jan 5, 2005, 08:39 pm   #122 (permalink) (top)
Starboy
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What in the hell are you saying? They do not...They live amoungst us...and sometimes flamboyantly at that. But, thats not the point, I never said they should segregate anyways...
Gays work among the straits but they prefer to live in gay communities. They self segregate because they prefer to be comfortable when they are home in their communities and do not care to deal with the stares and comments of bigots. You see bigots usually don’t want to live there.

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Boy, do you have me all wrong...Nice judging of character...you are right, I am not a 'sensitive twentyfirst century guy' - I happen to be a logical, intelligent, thought-provoked WOMAN-AND, if I were acting like a bigot, I would be saying that I hate gays, which I specifically said that I did not...I also said that I really have no problem with them, as long as they don't flaunt things in my face...which they do...And the issue here is not whether or not we think being gay is acceptable or not, which I actually do not...And it's not about whether we think being gay is okay, which I actually do not, but to each his own...And it's not about if we like them or not, which incidentally - I have really good friends whom are gay, and I like them a lot, they are my friends...
The issue here is whether or not we feel as though they should be allowed to be married, which I absolutely do NOT!
Sorry for mistaking your gender. Say anything you like. Gays are not seeking your approval. They already live as they wish. What they want is their rights. They already have families. They live in their own communities and they have their own culture. What you think about that just doesn't matter to them. They just want their families to have the same rights as any other family. By denying marriage to gays you are relegating their families to second class families. No different to relegating blacks to second class citizens because of their color.

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My issue with them not adopting kids is a far cry from the way they have sex. With any luck, most people do that behind closed doors, and not right in front of their kids, so that's not the issue, the main point of that is the normalacy of it, kids need to be accepted by their peers, and not teased...and as they are growing up, they need mommy's for certain things and daddy's for other things-they can't possibly have all those things if they are growing up with a gay couple for parents...bottom line.
Good luck on that. Kids do not need an excuse to be cruel little monsters. A kid can be tormented for the color of their hair just as much as who or what their parents are. The best thing for any child is to have loving parents. There are far too many heteros that take their ability to be parents for granted. Gays have to fight to be parents. They have to overcome the bigotry of people like you. But any two stupid, thoughtless, bigoted hetero couple can have a child and completely neglect it and as long as they stay within the law that is just peachy keen. You need to get over your irrational feelings and start thinking with your head.

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My issue, with this whole topic, is that I do not feel that gay people should be married...It just doesn't match the definition of marriage...which as I stated before is 'the practice of joining into a union together as husband (man) & wife (woman). PERIOD! If you read my previous posts you will see that I did say that, fine...if they want the 'inheritance, insurance and legal aspects' that marrige brings...fine, give it to them...but, that apparently wont cut it...It's not about all that only, they are on the 'unfair pitypot' and want to be given the same rights as heterosexuals, and to be treated like they are the same as us, but, in all actuality they are not...because they are going against the grain of nature...
Like I said, they already have families. They are not asking for your permission to make a life long commitment to another person. They are already doing that. They just don’t want their families to be treated as second class families. They don’t want segregated marriage just as blacks didn’t want segregated schools. The fact that people like yourself do not want to recognize their families to be equivalent to hetero families and their life long commitments to be the same as hetero commitments just means that you are very much like a lot of other bigots. It is no different than saying that blacks should not be allowed the same social treatment as whites. It is bigotry.

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So, be different...that's fine...But don't push it on everyone else. They don't want to be allowed to be married, just to have a family, they want to be on the same playing field as us...it's not our fault they are different...If I died my hair blue, I wouldn't sit around and get mad everytime I noticed that someone thought my hair was 'different', and get mad if they didn't include a check box for blue hair on applications asking for hair color. When someone is different, they are usually the ones who treat themselves different and then expect others to not see them that way...
They don’t care what you think. Isn’t that obvious to you? To them it is not about them getting you to accept them. They don’t care. All they want is their rights. In this country every one gets equal treatment. There are no second class citizens even if they do have blue hair. People are not supposed to be denied equal treatment because they are different. The problem is all yours. You find it creepy and that is all you see and it clouds your judgment. These people want their rights and you think that they are pushing it into your face. The gays are just like the suffragettes and the blacks that were in the face of people that thought that women or blacks shouldn’t get equal treatment. Why the idea of those uppity people demanding equal treatment!

You are such a bigot.

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