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jpapadpapa · Jan 30, 2004, 08:20 am

As for Archaeopteryx, there is evidence that it is simply a different species of bird, now extinct.

A questioner asked the late Dr. Colin Patterson, senior paleontologist of the British Museum of Natural History, why he had not included any pictures of transitional forms in his book, Evolution. He replied:
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I fully agree with your comments about the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them … . I will lay it on the line—there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument.1<hr size="1" /></blockquote>

According to evolutionist and Marxist Stephen Jay Gould:
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The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution.2 <hr size="1" /></blockquote>
Were the first bats, pterosaurs, and birds fully fledged flyers?

Evolutionists have admited ‘Intermediates between turtles and cotylosaurs, the primitive reptiles from which [evolutionists believe] turtles probably sprang, are entirely lacking.’ Since ‘turtles leave more and better fossil remains than do other vertebrates,’ they can’t use the arguement of an incomplete fossil record.3 What about the ‘oldest known sea turtle’? Do we see a fully formed turtle or a transitional one?

1 C. Patterson, letter to Luther D. Sunderland, 10 April 1979, as published in Darwin’s Enigma (Green Forest, AR: Master Books, 4th ed. 1988), p. 89. Patterson later tried to change his statement somewhat, apparently surprised that creationists would utilize this truth.
2 S.J. Gould, in Evolution Now: A Century After Darwin, ed. John Maynard Smith, (New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1982), p. 140. Teaching about Evolution pages 56–57 publishes a complaint by Gould regarding creationists quoting him about the rarity of transitional forms. He unjustly accuses creationists of representing him as denying evolution itself. Creationists clearly state that he is a staunch evolutionist.
3 Reptiles, Encyclopedia Britannica 26:704–705, 15th ed., 1992.

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jpapadpapa Molten Ash Posts: 53	As for Archaeopteryx, there is evidence that it is simply a different species of bird, now extinct. A questioner asked the late Dr. Colin Patterson, senior paleontologist of the British Museum of Natural History, why he had not included any pictures of transitional forms in his book, Evolution. He replied: </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by I fully agree with your comments about the lack of direct illustration of evolutionary transitions in my book. If I knew of any, fossil or living, I would certainly have included them … . I will lay it on the line—there is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument.1<hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> According to evolutionist and Marxist Stephen Jay Gould: </span><blockquote><span class="smallfont">Quote:</span><hr size="1" />Originally Posted by The absence of fossil evidence for intermediary stages between major transitions in organic design, indeed our inability, even in our imagination, to construct functional intermediates in many cases, has been a persistent and nagging problem for gradualistic accounts of evolution.2 <hr size="1" /></blockquote><span class='postcolor'> Were the first bats, pterosaurs, and birds fully fledged flyers? Evolutionists have admited ‘Intermediates between turtles and cotylosaurs, the primitive reptiles from which [evolutionists believe] turtles probably sprang, are entirely lacking.’ Since ‘turtles leave more and better fossil remains than do other vertebrates,’ they can’t use the arguement of an incomplete fossil record.3 What about the ‘oldest known sea turtle’? Do we see a fully formed turtle or a transitional one? 1 C. Patterson, letter to Luther D. Sunderland, 10 April 1979, as published in Darwin’s Enigma (Green Forest, AR: Master Books, 4th ed. 1988), p. 89. Patterson later tried to change his statement somewhat, apparently surprised that creationists would utilize this truth. 2 S.J. Gould, in Evolution Now: A Century After Darwin, ed. John Maynard Smith, (New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1982), p. 140. Teaching about Evolution pages 56–57 publishes a complaint by Gould regarding creationists quoting him about the rarity of transitional forms. He unjustly accuses creationists of representing him as denying evolution itself. Creationists clearly state that he is a staunch evolutionist. 3 Reptiles, Encyclopedia Britannica 26:704–705, 15th ed., 1992. I took the road less traveled by, And that has made all the difference.